Originally Posted by Bill Cody
2. Note - some but not all brooding adults live too long and grow too large, common fish in this group are common carp, goldfish, often gizzard shad and grass carp. Grass carp even though they do not reproduce they do IMO influence the pond's carry capacity. These are items to keep in mind when evaluating a fishery that involves carrying capacity.

Bill, your video links sent me on youtube surf and I think one speaks to and adds support to your comment on grass carp above. I suspect GC are too abundant both in numbers and biomass in the water this guy was fishing. He said a tributary of the Illinois River. Not sure, but I think he meant the Illinois River in OK which is tributary of the Arkansas River. Although these grass carp aren't the triploid variety this shows what grass carp will do when vegetation is in short supply. Anyways, for the viewing enjoyment of all:

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