Here is mike's phone number 800 882 dirt. I don't have his e-mail address. One of the ways that Mike was able to save me money was by only moving dirt once. He used excess dirt to build islands and three large paninsuelas. I was taking the dirt behind the dam one day when he asked what about just leaving it where it was to form structure instead of a smooth bottom. This approach saved a lot of work and also made a better pond. The topography of your land would dictate what could be done but only someone like Mike can instantly see that. George Spann who was at the meeting can tell you what happens when you hire someone who doesn't know what they are doing.