Also a cordless drill is easier on the arm, but it doesn't have to be cranked super fast. Just a good steady pace is better. An old windshield wiper motor bolted to a board along with the phone on the same board and rigged up to it works pretty good. Them old phones can also be heard along ways off when your on the river so always keep an eye out for game warden. Them Skoal can shockers work pretty good too and also they don't make any sound. Ya oughtta look into gettin one of them. Some people frown on fishin like that, but I was always told that, "If you ain't cheatin,.....you ain't wantin to win bad enough!".