jpsdad I'm with you on the BH but why are you opposed to FH? I thought either FH or CC would be fine in a pond. I bought the minnows from a bait store here in Malvern and didn't know what they were was just checking out my tanks. When the FHM 1st disappeared during a cold front I was talking with the supplier and described the minnows as staying shallow and on the surface he said it sounded like a mosquito minnow so I don't really know if there GAM. Since posting the CC and their fry have moved away from shore so will have to wait to try and identify.