An addendum to my June 27 2005 post. At that time, there were only 2 turtles that were more interested in my bobber than the shiner on the hook. Since I live 375 miles away from my pond, I cant monitor it. I have been feeding the fish heavily since 1st of March. I went last week and had several very large, many large, and a few small red sliders. They were eating nearly all the fish feed. The small ones were chasing and nearly catching the rosy reds. I applied stern punishment with a break barrel .177 pellet rifle with scope and pointed pellets. Next day only 1 turtle showed up to feed. He will probably be twice as big when I go back in about 3 wks. I like the fact they eat the dead fish, but just cant have an exploding population.