Cappy, I ain't no turtle expert,but seems ta me yer feedin yer own problem. "Me and gramma and the mutt, round em up and put em in the nearest pond". NO, NO, NO!! They just keep multiplyin that way. If ya don't wanna kill em, here's an alternative. Get a tractor innertube, split it opposite the valve stem (makes a good sight), nail it between two trees bout 4" apart. Now ya got yerself a fine turtle slingshot. With the right wind conditions, ya can send em like a Tiger Woods Big Bertha drive. If yer soft hearted, don't worry, they're hard shelled, and will bounce like a superball. If ya got some neighbors ya don't like, take carefull aim, and have fun. Bob-O