since this thread started I planted a patch of blueberry plants and put an electric wire around them powered by solar, and it barely deterred them at all, they chewed em down a good bit, they still alive tho, since the weather has warmed up, longer days and more sunshine it seems to be working a lot better, I also heard of a style of electric fence that is supposed to work great for deer, you put a three wire fence up, I gotta google the dimensions again but seems like on wire about 24" off the ground and another at about 3' then a third wire about 24" to the inside or outside of the other two staggered in elevation from the first two, something about making it a wider fence to jump over and a little harder to slide under. I was going to figure out how to make a standoff to attach to a fence post to hold the other wire out like that, may be able to mow up under the wire and a little easier to put up,,, but alas, I got busy and havent got to it yet.