esshup, thanks,, its nothing really to me, I dont get anything out of it, but it may be helpful to these guys, and nothing makes me madder then hearing stories about somebody getting ripped off by a shady contractor, gives the rest of us a bad name. at least these guys have an assoc to answer to if they tried to do shady work and the consumer has somebody to complain to, the Assoc holds us to reasonably high standards.


All the really good ideas I've ever had came to me while I was milking a cow.