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Tracy, do you remember if Bob said how long a warmup is required for the CNBG to complete the spawn? Al, no I don't recall him commenting on how long the warmup has to be other than he said a couple of warm days. Just remember him saying a couple of warm days might cause them to spawn. Keeping that in mind, and watching Mother Natures path, there must be something for the lmb fry to eat after the egg sack is digested. What else is in sufficient numbers other than bg fry that would be there to feed the small lmb? Again, Mother Nature has a plan. I would think that a lmb fry would not feed on Zooplankton after it reached an inch and a half or even smaller sized lmb.
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BG spawn just after (sometimes overlap)LMB. LMB yoy/fry eat plankton , small invertebrates , bugs etc for the first 30 days +- then will eat the next spawn of BG just after hatching. It tales a 2 inch +- LMB to eat a brand new BG fry (gape size key). LMB up to about 6 inches feast on recently hatched yoy BG .
Swim up (post fertilization) time of BG depends on temps. If cool it takes longer, warmer = faster. Can be from 7 to 14 days +-.
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"1" has returned to his bed site this evening. The next four days are supposed to be very sunny, warm temps and a full moon on the horizon. Hope's are running high to see my LMB spawn this week.
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Al sorry if I asked to much. Thanks Eric. It sure is nice to have Eric around, always able to explain things.
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You cant ask too much - that is the point of the Forum to answer questions and share info. That makes us all better stewards.
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You cant ask too much - that is the point of the Forum to answer questions and share info. That makes us all better stewards. +1 Tracy, ask all the questions you want. I had no clue how long of a warm up it took to get fry up and going, so I learned something too.
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Well, I kept two 14" lmb yesterday for eating. Thought they were both males. They looked healthy. So, when cleaning them it turned out to be one male one female so I am batting 50/50 when determining males from females. And I thought I was a knowledgeable lmb fisherman. The eggs were not fully developed or the fish had already spawned. There was not a lot of eggs. Kept a few cnbg to cook up with the lmb. Wanted to compare what my wife likes best.
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I'm still waiting for these stubborn bass to go on the bed. I would have thought by now they'd be churning up the bottom and making a nest. Surface temp today at 3pm was 76*f.
Lots of BG and GSF hanging close to the surface, but with exception to a handful of GSF that have been guarding for a couple of weeks, they dont seem interested in spawning either.
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was at a pond yesterday near Taylor and there were nest every where with bass on them - it was full on
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I have watched one lmb for 2 days in a row now very shallow but very spooky. It runs off as soon as I get anywhere near the pond. His choice of spots to spawn may not be too good. It is a little deep "pocket" near the bank and behind the dock but... It is right in the ravine where rain runs into the pond 100mph!! Don't think the eggs are going to like that!! I just came up from the pond and surface temp at 4pm today was 71.5.
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My 3 bass arent spooky at all. If anything, they come to meet me and will follow me around the pond. The other day when I thought they were about to do the deed, I sat as close as three feet from the buck with the female four feet away. They just cant seem to make up their minds.
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Mike, your 5 degrees different water temp from mine is a lot this time of the spawn. Usually muddy looking water like mine warms quicker than clear water. I just need a few more days of warm weather. And, I don't expect to see my 5-6 pounders up in 12 inches of water either. They will spawn a little deeper. I hope!! I actually try to stay away from the spawning areas as much as possible so not to disturb them too much. I do know when they "lock on" to the beds they can be very stubborn and not want to move. I have told the story where I watched one that actually allowed me to touch Him/her with the tip of my fishing rod before it would move off the nest!! That's "locked in"!!!
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Had 12 on the beds yesterday in the shallows. For the most part the all seem to be locked on. There is one that will come to me, he does not move off the bed to do it. Its more like he is saying come on get a little closer and I will bite your arse He is a good looking and nice sized very healthy looking. Not seeing any larger sized females on or near the beds. When I see two on the beds they seem to be the same sized fish, about 15" or so. I've seen two fish on the beds a couple of times recently and then or now just see the male there.
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Hey Flame, I've seen bass in the wild so locked in the Male had two females with him and I could have probably touched them with the rod if I'd thought to try.
I keep thinking maybe they'll bed deeper since my visibility is around 4'. Looked a bit turbid yesterday but I could still make out the top of a brick pile close to the main bedding area.
The male has actually been hanging on top of a submerged nylon pallet platform lately. Its suspended over the deep end on PVC legs and has a solid cinder block on top to keep it down on the shallow end. The whole thing may be 16" deep. I see both females around him too. Like I said earlier, none of them seem threatened by me. They will swim off slowly, but usually come right back or even follow me around
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I had one on a bed right below the dock I was fishing in about 4-5 feet of water. Took my plastic worm and ran it by several times - he looked at it but then would move off.
So I stayed with it for around 15 minutes - I literally was bumping his nose with the worm - he would open his mouth to kind of try to bump it away - he finally could not take it anymore and bit - I pulled him up and then released him - it was a blast
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Sometimes you just gotta be patient and make them mad enough. Had that been a lizard instead of a worm. That 15 minute wait would have been much less. Bass hate lizards/salamanders, especially during the spawn.
While I'm not opposed to bed fishing, I try not do it myself, even in a tournament, and I know its cost me a check or two.
I have done it sparingly tho, just to experience it. It is a rush to watch a big bass inhale your lure, but I've always thought it couldn't be good to put them under that kind of stress when they're contributing to your prolonged enjoyment of the sport, even tho there's no data to indicate its detrimental affects.
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Like you Mike...I never intentiantly sightfished during a tournament but if I happened upon one during a tourney I would take a shot. I have been many hours with an old fishing partner and watched him work beds. It has landed him near 10 pounders but I just don't have the patience. That being said...the larger the fish appears to be the more patience I seem to have!! Hah
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I think I'd much rather spend my day moving down the bank, flipping a jig around stumps, trees and grass beds.
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Yeah I do not spend all my time fishing beds - the guy was directly beneath the dock of the lake I was fishing so I had fun with him and then went about my normal fishing - did not have a lizard with me so had to make the worm work
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Saw - and still see many LMB in the shallows, but not clear they are nesting. I'm pretty sure they have been.
BUT - The gills are having a party. Added 6 yards of gravel to my existing 4 yards last fall. This is a large gently sloping area and the gills love it. This morning there must be a few dozen nests with the large gills standing guard. I think I need to get some fertilizer in there ASAP to help feed the new kids when they arrive.
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Dad was able to catch two LMB in 5 minutes Sunday with less than desirable conditions. This is in Central Oklahoma. I will there in about a week and I am going to try to squeeze some fishing in.
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Pretty sure my BOW runs a little cooler than many in the area. Probably a few LMB have spawned, but almost every female caught is still absolutely full of eggs. Very heavy for their length.
No CNBG beds are visible at all, and few are feeding. Seems like they don't really get going until April at my place.
7ac 2015 CNBG RES FHM 2016 TP FLMB 2017 NLMB GSH L 2018 TP & 70 HSB PK 2019 TP RBT 2020 TFS TP 25 HSB 250 F1,L,RBT -206 2021 TFS TP GSH L,-312 2022 GSH TP CR TFS RBT -234, 2023 BG TP TFS NLMB, -160
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Hundreds of less than 1” long fish gathered in shallow weeds(1’) or less deep not sure what they are ....... usually bass move around .... these hang in the same area.... doubt they are BCP cause they supposedly go out in deep water as soon as they come off nest... can anyone confirm that BCP go to open water or to cover
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Many species yoy move in and out from shore to deep water. Can you get a pic ? My guess is early BG spawn.
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