I like what I'm hearing. Thanks guys. I'm planning on getting the red ears from the Orschelns fish day for the fact the hatchery I'm getting the rest of my fish from doesn't happen to have any at this time and I'm wanting to get them started. Anyone had good/bad luck with Nemo Hatchery that does the Orschelens fish day? Appears they are out of Missouri which goes against NEDOC recommendation unfortunately but would sure take any advice on where else to get them?