Thanks for the suggestions guys - I will make a trip to cabelas for supplies and give them a try.

On the HSB I can catch them on anything. Mepps spinner, crappie jig, etc. Most of the time I use one of these. https://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product....g_ref=prd739496

Last night we catfished for about 45 minutes around 11 pm. It is stinking hot here right now got to 108 today so it takes a while to cool down. Anyway I was using Berkely Gulp catfish chunks with a bobber set about 4' deep in about 5' of water. I caught two catfish and also two HSB on the catfish bait.