Svoberts, good point -- I should explain what I am going to try to do. There is a drainage (not deep but wide that runs through my property shaped like a coke bottle. At the widest point it is maybe 50 yards and at the end where the dam would be it is probably 18 to 20 yards with an average and the average depth is about 10 feet and it is all in woods. I was going to have the area logged (leaving enough stumps to get a hold of with a dozer). On a very basic level, I'd just scrape it out, remove the stumps and have clay delivered for the dam and any where else that needs it. I have the option to make it larger but I know that would take a pro. Right now what I am looking at has no steep grades, except at the were the dam would be (where it bottle necks). I'm just debating this in my head and I am actually leaning toward using someone, but I just wanted to kick the idea around with some people of knowledge and past experience.

Several of my friends who are farmers think I am crazy to hire someone, but that comes back to what you said Svoberts.

I agree Eastland -- those guys that know what they are doing make it look too easy.

Ric, I guess I'd need insurance on the thing if I did that, but it did cross my mind. I'd keep it for a year and it would be a lot of fun if I did not mess it up or worse (heaven forbid).

I'd like to hear some more please! Thanks a lot!