Thanks for your reply Squeeky. I called and got a quote on the pond dam piping siphon system. The 8" system runs $296.80 for the fitting package(four elbows with collars and a valve) and 209.30 for the screen. I supply the 80 to 100 feet of PVC pipe. This seems pricey...... The draw that I'm planning on placing the pond isn't a huge watershead, yet it is ample. The pond will be in East Texas(Lufkin) area. May I ask what your cost was for your setup? How big will your pond be a full capacity? What kind of emergency overflow setup do you have? Did you help the contractor set the pipe up and into the dam? The 12" setup I think runs around $1200 bucks, not including the straight pipe. Will your pond be used for recreation(fishing) or mainly for livestock? What is the name of the local water company you purchased your setup?