RC, thanks for the ideas...I guess I'm like most of us, want the most bang for my buck. I guess I was like many thinking that aeration only put o2 in the water, but the goal is to turn the water over so the "dead" water on the bottom becomes live again, and fish can take advantage of it. Amazing the in depth information on this site!

Brian, here is a picture of the Kasco unit I'm talking about. Its a neat design and I've heard alot of good reviews, but to me it looks like soaker hose that has been alot more thought out than a simple circle.



An XL2 setup is a little cheaper than the robust aire, so I'm just wondering if there is any difference in the robust aire and soaker hose? I would think being a Kasco it would have to be well designed and thought out.