17". I'll wait for that! My concern was that they were "grown up" that they were as "long" as they were going to get. My buddy referred to earlier has three sons, they are all well below 6'. I have two sons, they are both well over 6'. I'm thinking fish, and lots of animals, don't have they same variation.

And yes, I ended up with a new road around the pond. There were a few trees destroyed in the process! Ha! It may look like a pickup, but it's a tank!

9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these.
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.
Otter attack in 2023