Well how about this , the trot line is the best solution . I put one out to try and catch snapping turtles baited with shrimp - caught a lot of cat's - no turtles - my aim was not to thin my cat numbers , so i did not re-bait the line . went out the next day to take the line out and had a lot of cat's on unbaited hooks . guess the moon glittering on the hooks attracted them . anyway the trot line is your best bet . Harvey