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Why are non-hybrid pure-strain striped bass not used in ponds?
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Because they are primarily a salt water fish, RAH.
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I fish for pure striped bass in Lake Murray SC, a freshwater lake.
I just got a new pond, I made it twice because I aint so bright.
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Hybrid striped bass are considered better suited for culture in ponds than either parent species because they are more resilient to extremes of temperature and to low dissolved oxygen
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That makes sense, but I wonder how big pure striped bass might get in a pond where oxygen and temps are suitable? I also wonder if the strain developed in California might spawn?
Update: but maybe not...
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1577/1548-8659%281985%29114%3C31%3ASBTADO%3E2.0.CO%3B2
Thanx catmandoo
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Here's a link to an excellent article on Striped Bass... Striped bass - Wikipedia
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[/quote] That makes sense, but I wonder how big pure striped bass might get in a pond where oxygen and temps are suitable? I also wonder if the strain developed in California might spawn?
Update: but maybe not...
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1577/1548-8659%281985%29114%3C31%3ASBTADO%3E2.0.CO%3B2
Thanx catmandoo I regularly fish in freshwater lakes which contain citation pure striped bass, and lakes with monster hybrid striped bass. This following note is from our West Virginia Department of Natural Resources weekly fishing report from late last week (these notes change weekly): [quote] Mount Storm Lake - Anglers should target striped bass, black bass, and walleye. Additional Christmas tree reef structures have recently been added as fish attractors and habitat on the western side of the lake. Recent surveys revealed greater numbers of quality-sized channel catfish, which are overly abundant in this lake. Harvest of channel catfish in Mt. Storm is promoted to improve this population. Additionally, recent biological surveys have revealed plentiful striped bass greater than 20” in length! This population is maintained through WVDNR stocking efforts! These fish should now be approaching citation size (>25”). In fact, an angler recently caught a striped bass larger than 25”, earning the individual a Trophy Fish Citation certificate! Trolling minnow and shad patterns (crankbaits, jigs, inline spinners, and stick baits) should prove successful for targeting walleye and striped bass. Here in WV, we have many other great fishing spots that include BIG hybrid striped bass and purebred striped bass. This particular site also regularly changes, but here is a story about our record striped bass in another WV lake: West Virginia Striped Bass fishing and Hybrid Striped BassThe current state record weight for striped bass is a 29.56-pound fish caught by Terry Watkins at Bluestone Lake. 29 lbs - 9 oz Striper Record - Blue stone lake A new West Virginia state record striper established for length was caught by Better late than never. Not exactly a weight record but establishes the record for length at 40 inches and 21 lbs. West Virginia A state record for striped bass was recently caught by Michael Pittman, Jr., of Wayside in Monroe County, according to Frank Jezioro, Director of the Division of Natural Resources. Pittman caught the 40.88-inch, 21.38-pound fish from Bluestone Lake in Summers County on July 8, 2007. He caught the record striped bass using a crank bait while fishing near the mouth of the Bluestone River. Pittman’s catch establishes a new West Virginia record for length. The previous length record for striped bass was a 37.75-inch fish caught by Harold Mills from Bluestone Lake in 2006. The current state record weight for striped bass is a 29.56-pound fish caught by Terry Watkins at Bluestone Lake. Anglers who believe that they have caught a state record fish should check the record listing in the 2007 Fishing Regulations brochure. The brochure also outlines the procedure to follow for reporting their catch. This information is also available online at http://www.wvdnr.govstriped bass record I also fish freshwater lakes in North Carolina -- where it was found a number of years ago that striped bass can live in impounded freshwater water bodies. At my beach home in North Carolina I have the pleasure of catching what I assume are pure-strain Atlantic striped bass in the "front yard." In my opinion, there just isn't a whole lot of difference between the pure-strain vs. the hybrid form. If I were to catch an HSB in the ocean, I'm not sure I would even look twice at it, and notice that it was an HSB vs., a pure bred Atlantic striped bass. As a pond owner, I certainly prefer stocking HSB vs., purebred striped bass (I'm not sure I could even find purebred striped bass if I wanted some). I like them because I know that my HSB grow extremely well. I have had almost no mortality when stocking HSB. Like hatchery raised trout, they usually begin to take floating fish food pellets within a day of stocking. They do not get hook shy. They are delicious table fare. For me, it is "why mess with success?" Regards, Ken
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I will only stock HSB if forage get out of control. I would prefer to stock regular SB on the off chance they might spawn. I may need some to control YP in the SMB pond.
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Hello.
I am very interested with the YP and the SMB.
You said the SMB don't control your YP.
Sorry if I pollute your post.
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I have a pond that I am hoping will produce trophy SMB based on YP and GSH forage. You are very welcome to post as far as I am concerned. I am not far enough in to claim success, but I am having fun! I have stocked very lightly, so the result is still a couple years off.
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I have always wondered why pure stripers were not ever tried to be stocked in ponds either..
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I think the Pure SB are more sensitive to temps too, Hot and cold, as well as overall water quality and O2. We have a native population of SB here in the st johns river, don't venture out into the ocean for some reason? they are glued to the large springs during the summer to survive the heat. During the winter they spread.
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I have fished for striped bass and they were in 20 to 40 foot of water, in a 190 foot lake, in the warmer months. Then in Dec and Jan. they will come up or move up the river. To get some size 35 to 45 lbs. they need a lot of food, shad. So they need large lakes. They do not spawn but I have seen them stripped for eggs to go to a hatchery. This was 20 years ago so things may have changed.
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