WOW, I wasn't expecting the "no kits" discussion. Thank you so much. I never even thought of going any other way. Back when I started digging I called the somewhat local guy and asked what he had. He said he sells a kit and suggests that over anything due tot he savings and such.

He was very helpful, I mean very, and spent a lot of time on the phone with me trying to explain why the kit is constructed the way it is. I have young kids so I want to fish with them at this pond and I don't mind sunnies and blue gills but there has to be something else too. LMB would be great, especially big ones, maybe catfish, maybe even trout since my pond will be about 15' deep and spring fed. I will post what this guy has in his kits and we will go from there. I don't want to post the name of the supplier but its central PA and I can tell you there has been many people around here happy with what they got from this guy. Let me know what you think.