oops, forgot you Mark! Yes, will do the pond first and THEN see how things go with the water before moving any trees. Good thought.

As to the size, I have plenty of land and could do something as large as 20 acres in the valley area - but I think the pump on my well would probably burn up every few days just trying to fill it. Therefore, I am trying for about 3/4 acre. Also still debating the dig out vs embankment approach. Next thing I know Bob Lusk will tell me to "beeeee the dammmmmmmm"!