Hi Canyoncreek,

Thanks for the info. The thing I worry about with golden shiners is I have read they can get quite big and most likely become bait stealers when the kids and I are fishing for other fish. I know Jonahs aquarium has these varieties but they are like $5 and $6 per minnow. My wife would shoot me for how many I would need.Forgot to mention I did put some crays in. Havent tried to catch them yet to see how they are doing. Will most likely add more still this year. I put about 30 ton of large rip rap in piles and just under the water on the shoreline but water is not up far enough yet. Also sunk some pines, pallets, and have some massive concrete slabs coming out from the shore for structure. I have some lilly pads started but in a container until the water level is higher as well. I will also feed everything. FYI the minnows in my pond love the Purina game fish chow, and my parents bluegill and catfish have a hay day with it. Our local co-op stocks it so I figured I would give it a try.