Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Originally, I had purchased 50 6"-8" HSB a little while back, but they were all dead on arrival to my pond. So, these 65 were replacements for that original order. Since they were smaller in size, an additional 15 were thrown in to even the cost out. I was hoping that since HSB prefer open water that maybe they would head out that way ASAP, and the LMB would leave them alone. The few I saw in the shallows were getting crushed. Lesson learned!