Update on the ps talk, I have noticed in my pond there are thousands of tiny snails all around any type of structure. As Bill pointed out maybe that is part of why the ps and "pumpkin gills " are doing well in it. I'm not sure just trying to keep you aware of anything I am seeing that may be of help or information for whoever is interested. We caught two over the weekend that were only five inches long but were true ps as the color was brighter and had the red by the gill spot also.