Pond Boss Forums INTRO Questions & Observations Placing branches down for YP spawn

Just curious. How long until these hatch? And do I need to do anything to protect them in the meantime? Coons, ducks, herons, etc..
Thanks

If the water stays 50-54F hatch will be 7-9days. At hatching the ribbons gradually fall apart. If the ribbon is not fertilized all those unfertilized eggs will turn white. As fertile eggs get close to hatching it becomes darker color.

SG, dude...ya gotta chill or you're gonna worry them YP into miscarriage. Besides I feel about one more troublesome ? will evoke a large FREAK from Sunill. All them YP and eggs gonna be fine!!!

Ha!! So true. I'm hoping when I go back Monday I'll have a few more ribbons. I think I can hang in there 7-9 days.
Wasn't that long ago, this was just a ravine running down through the timber. Lots of changes for me. I'm trying to stay calm. Just a nervous dad. Will I have any YP, or will I have too many? Just kidding..

Surface temps at 51 F, but no ribbons yet.

Great to hear you still have some perch in there SG. They are quite funny mid summer to late fall on the bite. I expect you to have many more original stockers then you think in there.

Just got back from my golf trip and the ice is just out on our pond. Will be placing branches (apple) today.

Apple here grow really complex and tight.

Cheers Don.

I do have more original stockers than I thought. I put down the wrong type branches, way to spindly, and open. I could have used briars..
The water temp hit 58, over the last two very warm (70*) days. They are laying ribbons everywhere. There's 10 different ribbons within 20' of the dock, all laying on the bottom.
I can see most are pretty dull, so I'm assuming no viable eggs. However, some have an almost iridescent section here or there. Hoping I'll get some recruitment.
Almost all were along the western bank.
I think this pic shows three different ribbons. Thanks again everyone, for all excellent advice. I'll be much better prepared for next spring.
FYI, Rainman arrived yesterday with many more YP, brought them in just in case, I had lost too many from the original stocking. Heck of a guy, to do that.
Thanks,
Rex

The funny thing SG about your concern about them not making it, is perch once introduced into nonnative waters, are typically so successful they become a nuisance species and are impossible to get rid one. Some pristine brook trout waters in the northeast have been forever ruined by the unlawful planting of yellow perch.

Got a couple of yellow perch in to mount from Moosehead Lake, Maine that was once known as a big brook trout mecca.

A local lake was rotenoned to get rid of carp and start over. Guess what species survived?

Bullheads??

Ha! At least they taste good. One if these days, I'm going to buy one of your YP mounts.
They are also pretty weird about being caught. It's lime the dinner bell goes off, and you can catch them. Before that, it's like the pond is empty..

FYI, here's what I was shooting for. (Yesterday)


He hasn't caught enough to feel comfortable with them yet. Didn't want to touch this one, but he got better at it, and helped me clean them, and had no trouble eating them.

Pull up some of those egg ribbons lying on the bottom and wrap /drape them around some of your branches in the water. Your original stocking may have been biased toward larger females. The second delivery with mixed sizes likely had a larger percentage of males.

Beautiful fish and precious son!

Setterguy's Grandson....He loves the pond and I enjoyed all the questions he had for me while stocking the extra fish.....

I'd forgotten the six yr old question everything phase. Happy little guy, but towards the end, I was thinking he was asking so many questions just to drive me crazy.. His favorite thing for two days was catching tadpoles. We bought him a little net on the way up, he waded around the pond a hundred times dipping in that net and pulling up loads of those big bullfrog tadpoles. (We made him stay away from the areas with the most ribbons.) I think his best catch in a single net was fifty. He counted them out one by one. Then we put out some traps and caught hundreds and hundreds.
I'm not sure what these tadpoles eat, but what ever it is, my pond must have a lot of it. It's like one big tadpole hatchery.
I'm going back up Saturday I'll see how many additional ribbons I have. And place them in the branches. Of the four YP my grandson did reel in three were full of eggs. I'm thinking I'll be getting a lot more ribbons.
As we cleaned them, my grandson kept asking me, why did we catch the mommy fish? It bothered him a little. But he ate them just the same.
So now I'm up to 34 YP kept and eaten.

Funny thing at that age is your rubber boots are never tall enough.

Another funny thing is we all got boots older than that.

Ain't that truth!

One of the high school teachers was over to pick up fish food. It's seems like just the other day she was pregnant with her first child. She informed me it's 4 years old!

Damn how fast time flies!

He was funny about that. He'd fill them up in no time. I'd see him empty them out. He'd complain about how hard it was. I said sit down and lift up your legs. He, of course said no Pops.. But then I noticed he was sitting down and lifting his legs. Just had to be his idea. He went for a little swim too. 58* water, it was a pretty short swim. He was yelling like crazy, finally grandma said, stand up Logan its knee deep. Ha

Probably but I was referring to the yellow perch. Produced some dandy yellow perch a few years later. Not sure about now.

The carp are back because the INDNR failed to treat far enough upstream. Hopefully a good bass population will keep them under control.

Before it was killed off it was nothing to catch 6 or 8 ten to fifteen pound carp a day on "wheatie balls" with vannilla extract added. A blast on ultralight tackle!

I don't even know if treating a few miles upstream would be enough. From what I've seen happen to a local lake that was killed, the carp came back and are just as thick as they were before. With the BG/RES/PS/YP/GSH/GS in the lake, I don't think the LMB pay that much attention to the YOY common carp.........

I honestly don't know of any body of water other than ponds where there is a 100 percent fish kill with rotenone. Do you?

I don't know of any way to verify that there was a 100% kill other than draining and seeing if anything was moving.

BUT, if the dosage was done correctly, I wouldn't worry about it. In that particular 365 acre lake, I truly believe that there was a 100% kill because even the crayfish were dead. The lake was dropped 4', and while I don't remember seeing the rotenone being applied, I do remember seeing all the dead fish. I think at that time the State erred on the side of "if a little is enough, 2x the amount is better".

I can't tell you how many roll-off dumpsters were filled with dead fish. All the people that owned houses around the lake were out there scooping up dead fish and putting them in the containers.

I have ribbons! Unlike last year's unfertilized eggs, the ribbons are quite a bit smaller and scattered on submerged plants, rather than on branches. Instead of 2 or 3 like last year, I have dozens (deposited in the last 2 days). I am guessing these are from the 100 small YP stocked last year, rather than the much larger 25 fish stocked 2 years ago (based on ribbon size and number). Hopefully, these will be fertile.

Glad to hear RAH!