Hey Bill, I've never seen the ps spawning with the bg. Most of the time I catch them around the fish attractors and my kids usually net the little ones around the cat tails. I got the ps from a farmer that bought a 3 acre pond so he could fill it in and farm the ground. He gave me two days to catch what I could. So the ps we caught were very pretty and we decided to put them in our pond, everything else went to the freezer. Where he got them from I don't know. Most of them were small that we caught from there but had very bright color to them. For reasons that I don't know they seem to be doing great in my pond. My water is pretty clear around the edge when the bg spawn so I'll keep better watch this year. I'm trying to answer everything I can for everyone if I miss a question just hit me up again and I'll do my best. And you are more than welcome to come check my pond out sometime if anyone wants some ps I'm sure we can get you some.