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I did a little of that last summer and had some luck. Unfortunately, I bought the seed in late spring and most required a cold stratification of anywhere from 60 to 120 days. By the time I did the pre-treatment and planted the seeds it was mid to late summer. They did come up and I transplanted them at the pond but I suspect they were too little to survive. This year the plan is to buy the seed in Jan/Feb so I can get them started in pots a lot earlier and be transplanting by June.
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You often have the ability to plant a bit later when the soil stays wet.
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My 5 ac is 2 years old and no native water plants yet .... With ducks and GBH I Woolf think that it would get in there on its own.... There are two lakes near (300) yards that is full of plants that is a problem for them... So I haven't put any in. I have about an acre of flooded timber and youpon so the little YOY have a little cover but not enough I don't think
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Pat, all you have to do is type the following: "I hope no vegetation will ever become established in my pond." This Spring, you're going to see multiple cultivars taking off.
The more you type this sentence, the more vegetation will grow. I stand by this method, and can guarantee results this year for you.
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My sister has worked there for over 20 years and I believe she's the one who also takes most of the pictures of the plants that you see in the catalog. Their nursery is 8 miles from here.
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Thanks, I'll let her know when I see her on Friday.
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SetterGuy Irises will do well in a pond where the water level rises and falls. Mine have been way out of water and deep in water and have thrived and expanded over the years.
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I have used their plants, and I think INDOT got plants from them when they built a mitigation wetland on our place.
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SetterGuy Irises will do well in a pond where the water level rises and falls. Mine have been way out of water and deep in water and have thrived and expanded over the years. Thanks John, There is a pond supply place near me that sells plants, and a few fish, mostly for very small backyard ponds, but he has the iris there. They even grow on the edge of the asphalt parking lot. No water in sight.. I was thinking that's what I would need.
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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Is the Iris a special kind of Iris? Reason I ask is every abandoned farmstead around here has some Iris growing in a ditch or fence. Very hardy and a popular plant a hundred years ago.
If that is the kind that works around water, wife likes them and we have them growing wild on the place. Multiple color flowers.
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Blue flags (and other specific iris) are especially adapted to wet conditions.
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Wife says what we have around farmsteads is a Bearded Iris. But she also says she knows where to get the other kind. The Blue Flag Iris appears to be a more open flower than the Iris that was popular plantings around farmsteads. https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&a...;q=Bearded+irisReading up on the Bearded Iris, it says excellent drainage is a must, so they would not likely be suitable for wet pond edge conditions.
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At what depth of water can Iris plants tolerate. Is two feet going to drown the plants?
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Yellow flags (non-native and somewhat invasive) can live in a foot or more of water. Blue flags (native and not invasive) tolerate less depth on a consistent basis - maybe a few inches. Both are quite attractive. You may be warm enough to have other types survive in your location. http://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/beauty/iris/
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The ones we were considering are the blue flags. They will mostly line the bank above the higher water line. As far as "in" the water goes. I'm not sure I'll get anything to grow. (for the previously stated issues.)
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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Good info that above the waterline will work for the blue flag. I have a bunch of blue flag seed in the refrigerator. Been waiting for the weather to get cold so I can plant them without them breaking dormancy. Maybe next week.
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I found my yellow and blue flag at the tail end of a reservoir I was kayaking. It is a very slow spreader. Of all the plants I have planted I would pick it #1 for me and my likes.
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The invasiveness of blue and yellow flags are very different. I suggest that anyone considering planting yellow flags do their homework.
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My Louisiana iris and blue flag iris has been at the ponds edge now and growing into its 2nd winter. Planted at water edge has put the plants base as high as 12" above the water level during the summer drought and as deep as 12" below water surface during the fall, winter and spring. In the high water level, maybe 2 to 4" of the highest tips of the plants are out of the water, which means most all of the plants are submerged. They are growing in this environment ( I'm suppressed). They are planted and growing at the two Wood Duck box locations at the pond. I am hoping the plants will continue to grow to new heights helping to hide the posts the wood duck boxes are setting on.
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Any of you guys plant seed to get your blue flag going?
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Bill, I got my 6 plants from a local plant nursery. He is a long time acquaintance and so I asked him how he came across the plants to have them at his business. He told me of times when he would remodel someone's yard or home landscaping, he might bring them to his place of business for resale. The plants came in a one gallon container and I might have pd $3.00 per plant. I think they would grow from seed with little effort, but maybe not Tracy
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The invasiveness of blue and yellow flags are very different. I suggest that anyone considering planting yellow flags do their homework. I have both. I don't need additional problems. Thanks for the head's up.. The wife prefers the blue, so that's 90% of the discussion.. ;-)
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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When I dug my yellow flag I didn't even know I had any blue flag in the plants but they did show up, but after 15 years they are still almost non existent. I've got a couple of plants on each side of the pond, one side I planted on and the other side one just showed up. So in 15 years of growth I doubt if I can find 6 plants around the pond. Now the yellow flag's are much more numerous but not what I call invasive. The word invasive would be in the eye of the beholder I guess. The strange thing about the flags is I planted most of them the on the west side of my pond and I'm not sure I can find one on that side to this day but most of the rest of the pond has yellow irises. So I am guessing it was seeds from the original planting before those plants died out that populated the rest of the pond. The prevailing wind is from south west and I have always thought that is what spread the seeds mostly to the north and west of the pond.
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