Thanks guys. I had not considered a 22 Mag. I have a Ruger 10/22 but shooting all the way across the pond, it drops too much. I remember as a kid fishing with a friend and shooting his 22 Mag at turtles. I was amazed at its long distance accuracy. I will definately look into them. Yes, used is ok. I live within a mile of Big Town Convention center. So I will wait on the next gun show.