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Filling in an old washed out Dam #417297 07/01/15 10:44 AM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 33 GA C c.j.
c.j. C Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 33 GA	we have a wooded area behind the house that used to be a pond around 30 years ago. the dam is still there but the creek broke through it and left around a 20ft gap. my question is what is the best method to dam the creek back up? put a 90 degree pipe in and fill in with red clay? located in GA we only need it to be a foot or two deep to hold ducks and practice dog training

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam c.j. #417309 07/01/15 11:48 AM
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Rainman Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker R Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,103 Likes: 24 St Louis, MO area	Consider using a flashboard system if wanting a flooded waterfowl area. You could pour some concrete and use 8-12' long boards to adjust levels as needed. Put a bead of silicone on boards to improve sealing.

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam Rainman #419190 07/22/15 08:48 AM
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c.j. C Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 33 GA	is there a cheaper method like a 90 degree angle pipe?

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam c.j. #419199 07/22/15 12:22 PM
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snrub S Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 6,088 Likes: 101 SE Kansas	Does the creek run continuously? Or is it seasonally dry? The reason I ask is, if it runs continuous you could just stack rocks or rip-rap through the cut up to the desired level of water. The water would rise and fall along with the creek flow, but back up into the pond area at least part of the time. When I was a kid (with too much time on our hands in the summer), we would play in the creek and take boulders in a riffle area and stack them up. It would back up a nice pool of deeper water. Where you only want a limited amount of water in the pond area, anything to restrict flow of the creek water might do what you need. That is if the creek flows pretty much year round instead of seasonal. John I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam snrub #419259 07/23/15 07:45 AM
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c.j. C Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 33 GA	it flows year around, there are two other lakes upstream from us, I am looking to use a 6inch pipe and cover it with clay. this will be a .25 acre 2ft deep wood duck hole, what is the cheapest method for a drainage pipe?

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam c.j. #419269 07/23/15 09:03 AM
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Bob-O Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker B Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,386 Butler In. Very NE corner	Could ya cut a tree about 10" and put it in place and then pack clay? Do nature a favor, spay/neuter your pets and any weird friends or relatives.

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam Bob-O #419280 07/23/15 10:24 AM
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esshup Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 29,788 Likes: 1295 Grovertown, Indiana	It may sound like a lot of work, but if you don't calculate how much watershed you have, and use that number to figure out how many gallons of water the creek will see from a significant rainstorm, your dam and pipe might get washed downstream again if the pipe isn't large enough. Just saying............. I've used black corrugated double wall "culvert", and put a 90� elbow on it, then extended the vertical pipe to the height that I needed, cutting it with a recip saw. I'm thinking that 6" is way too small....................... You can do it cheap and it might hold, or you may have to re-spend the money because it failed. I usually opt to do it once, no matter what it costs because I don't want to have to do it again. www.hoosierpondpros.com http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4 3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam esshup #419694 07/28/15 10:53 AM
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c.j. C Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 33 GA	Originally Posted By: esshup It may sound like a lot of work, but if you don't calculate how much watershed you have, and use that number to figure out how many gallons of water the creek will see from a significant rainstorm, your dam and pipe might get washed downstream again if the pipe isn't large enough. Just saying............. I've used black corrugated double wall "culvert", and put a 90� elbow on it, then extended the vertical pipe to the height that I needed, cutting it with a recip saw. I'm thinking that 6" is way too small....................... You can do it cheap and it might hold, or you may have to re-spend the money because it failed. I usually opt to do it once, no matter what it costs because I don't want to have to do it again. what if I did 2 six inch pipes? the 12 inch pipes are like $400 just for an elbow at Home depot?

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam c.j. #422105 08/25/15 07:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 29,788 Likes: 1295 Grovertown, Indiana esshup Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
esshup Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 29,788 Likes: 1295 Grovertown, Indiana	A=πr^2 (area = pi times radius squared) Do the math. What's cheaper, four 6" pipes or one 12" pipe? That's what you'd need to get the same cross section......... (unless I did the math wrong) You sure you're looking at double walled culvert? Go to a plumbing contractors supply house - you most likely will beat the big box store prices...... I come up with a 12" elbow for around $67.00. http://www.alantlynninc.com/Culvert.html Last edited by esshup; 08/25/15 07:24 AM. Reason: looked for elbow www.hoosierpondpros.com http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4 3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

Re: Filling in an old washed out Dam c.j. #427547 10/26/15 07:54 AM
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c.j. C Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 33 GA	what about taking a metal pipe say 2-4ft in diameter and putting a sheet of metal over it like a water control valve. You could winch the sheet of metal up to let water out.

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