I think that the most telling thing is that folks like us, that want to improve the environment, are so opposed to the expanded jurisdiction. I have already put most of my land into programs where I traded a property tax break for the right to develop the land (its in wildlife habitat). We added 2 ponds, 5 wetlands, and tens of thousands of trees to this property before putting it into the program. The chunks that I have not put in the program are those where we have buildings and operate a small vegetable farm (profits fund the wildlife habitat restoration). In addition, I have kept land out where I hope to add more wetlands and ponds. I was told that I could easily get permits for these later, but my experience tells me it will be time consuming and costly if its in a government program. I think the philosophical divide is between those that want the government to take care of them and those that primarily want the government to leave them alone. We are losing this battle.