Flame, I also have done the tall or vertical pipe with the garden hose and like u say, I just adjusted the lengths of the hose for the stiffness I desired, but I like the horz pipe better, even though both types will hold fish. And the horz. pipe may look like a lay down, and I like lay downs lol And I might have to try Canyoncreeks idea with the foam into the garden hose. I have some cheap water hose that is weak in it's stiffness and it might help in 2 ways, by trapping air and by the foam, both giving it a possibility to float higher in the water. Hum ! One can of foam is cheap to try and again less haul off to the landfill. All of the above gives me something to do on rainy days. had almost 3" of rain the day before yesterday and it has rained all night and raining now. it's been a wet spring here.
Tracy
