This fish is about .4Lbs light according to the charts and I plan to start charting all catches. Never fished for the catfish or never seen anyone catch one accidently, I just had one die and float to bank. I do not seem to catch crappie less than 10" either but I do catch small bluegill. I do see small fish swimming around the bank on warm days, right now there are quite a few. The pond is 20'+ deep in several places.