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Truly amazing fish, TJ! Well done on all counts!
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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This cold front has really slowed down my RES fishing. TJ, female?
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This cold front has really slowed down my RES fishing.
I hear ya Shorty, 30 to 40 MPH winds here and supposed to drop below freezing next few nights. Not even going to consider fishing until next week.
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This cold front has really slowed down my RES fishing.
I hear ya Shorty, 30 to 40 MPH winds here and supposed to drop below freezing next few nights. Not even going to consider fishing until next week. Bill i told ya to move down here where it's warm, 80s day and 70s at night! Come on down we got room fer ya Geo1 Those are beautiful CNBG!
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This cold front has really slowed down my RES fishing. TJ, female? I'm curious what TJ thinks also. Based on opercular border,(orange) I would guess female.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Awesome fish George! Even though those CNBG foil my efforts to sex them everytime, I'm going to put it out there again...
First BG photo....female. Second BG photo....this one is confusing to me... chest coloration, round body dynamic, and I THINK I see scale tipping? That small opercular throws me though.... immature male?
Third BG photo....male.
Fourth BG photo....male.
How did I do?
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Steve and Tony, that's my WAG too, simply based on color of margin on tab. I seem to remember a RES with a thicker, deep red border Steve posted recently which seems to be the only Male I would be confident in.
GEO posted some dandy CNBG right there...gives us a standard against which we can measure our progress. I am very happy with the exposure the "other" species seem to getting on the forum. I admire a monster LMB, but these fringe species are finally getting their recognition. Love the trend - it's good for our overall education.
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Awesome fish George! Even though those CNBG foil my efforts to sex them everytime, I'm going to put it out there again...
First BG photo....female. Second BG photo....this one is confusing to me... chest coloration, round body dynamic, and I THINK I see scale tipping? That small opercular throws me though.... immature male?
Third BG photo....male.
Fourth BG photo....male.
How did I do? Tony, I think "she's" a female - looks like full of eggs and a male that size would be obvious - I think... They will be in full spawning colors in a couple of weeks. Thanks!
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Thanks George...the opercular and swollen abdomen do look female. I guess it's time to throw scale-tipping out as a reliable indication of male, at least on CNBG.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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IMO the amount of scale tipping in the 2nd BG picture is not enough to think this fish a male. There will be some natural variability of body markings in each population. Remember one has to look at each fish in relation to many of the other available fish in the same pond. Also do not use one body feature to separate male and female BG. A combination of body features have to be compared to other siblings in the same pond and not use individual generalized features presented in a magazine. The generalized features are just suggested key body characters to use for comparing or separating individual fish in each water body. There is too much natural variation of body coloration and patterns in each population to apply 'cast in stone' book guidelines for sexing fish using external body characters.
George does grow some nice fish that would thrill any fly rod angler.
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I agree Bill, just trying to get a handle on these CNBG, especially in regards to this thread: http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=391707&page=1
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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1st RES over 10".
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Well done Steve - you are on a RES tear lately!
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I think I have figured out the cool water pre-spawn RES bite. I have caught somewhere around 150 RES in the last 5 weeks with water temps mostly in the mid to upper 50's, lower 60's at best. Almost all of them have been caught in 2-3 ft of water. I also think I have figured out how to sex them as well outside of the spawn.
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Couple more nice fish taken with Al's ice rig, teardrop and waxie I'm guessing this is a pure BRES - if so, it's a pond record. Feedback? Belt buckle Gill that is destined for my trophy pond this Summer
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Very nice TJ!
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caught this snapper out of my pond last night , Pretty excited! Sorry, I am never prepaired to measure them. I'll work on that.
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One question Bobby , did ya eat it or turn him loose?
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TJ, I agree on the BRES. Very nice fish, and that BG is stellar.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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caught this snapper out of my pond last night , Pretty excited! Sorry, I am never prepaired to measure them. I'll work on that. That is SO cool....
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Tony, you give me a high standard to pursue on those hybrids...finally seeing some nice fish, though.
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