Pond Boss Forums STOCKING A NEW POND Types of fish to choose LMB feeding/stocking genetics

anthropic, I am pretty sure we met up at PBC and it's was a pleasure to meet you and your son. Now as far as the lmb getting Lock Jaw, I think all lmb act that way at times. It's like a light switch sometimes, fishing and no bites, when all of a sudden they turn on and bite till dark or till 9 am. And like you, I looked at the Tiger lmb, and I think it is pretty cool with what has been done with the Genetics of those fish. I also looked at the Camalot Bell's lmb and I found that those lmb have grown to the high side of the double digit lmb and of those that were shown to be great catches were all caught on artificial baits (plastic). And as discussed here on the Forum, you can always use live bait(bluegills) or such things, to get a bite. I am not trying to persuade you in any direction, because if we all did the same or acted the same, the world would be Bor Ring
Tracy

We stocked F1 intergrades and were consistently disappointed with growth rates as seen in fishery surveys. Not sure what the problem was… We also have surveyed lakes where the infamous tiger bass (from other sources) had been stocked, and we were disappointed with those as well. Actually, I was downright bored with my largemouth bass program until I was able to acquire these Camelot Bell brood stock. Now I feel that I have my groove back.

With pure genetics in a new pond you have something you can count on to breed true year after year. You can start your own breeding program in a brood pond, and you have something that has true bartering value with your network of pond boss buddies. Sell or trade your culled overcrowded bass. But if you mix up the genetics or stock hybrids, then you won't know what you have in a few years.

If you have a new body of water to work with in southern waters, I don't see why you would want anything other than pure Florida genetics.

Because of the scientifically proven fact that Fla LMB are less catchable. Because many of American Sportfish's customers complained after ASF stocked all pure Fla LMB that there were no fish in the lake ( they were there and big but not catchable) AFS breed F-1s. There are + and - with every stocking system so it depends

If you want a true trophy LMB lake then ok but realize you may fish a lot with only a few bites and the fish may be bigger.

I suggest that everyone get a copy of this study and read it.


Subspecies Composition of Angled and Electrofished Largemouth Bass in Texas Reservoirs , Dijar J. Lutz-Carrillo, and Spencer Dumont in Proceedings of the Annual Conference of the Southeast Association of Fish and Wildlife. Agencies 66:75–81, 2012 Proc .

I well remember the first bass I ever caught!
It was more than 80 years ago – creek fishing for “perch” with worms and cane pole.
Ran out of worms and hooked on a berry blossom!
Been fishing for LMB for most of my life until I got bored and began pursuing other species.

I fished Lake Fork in the early 80’s when the first rise flooded the farm ponds where pure Florida LMB had been stocked and left long enough to get maximum reproduction.
Lake Fork Florida LMB hard to catch – nope – only got hard to catch after being caught and released so many times IMO.
Hundred fish days – until TP&W introduced slot limits.
Got bored with LMB and began fishing for striped bass on Lake Texoma.

I agree with Todd ... “Actually, I was downright bored with my largemouth bass program until I was able to acquire these Camelot Bell brood stock. Now I feel that I have my groove back”.

George

Many thanks to everyone who replied! Obviously there are a lot of opinions out there from very sharp folks re genetics. I will try to do some more research & reading before making a final decision. Catchability is a big factor -- I have three grandkids -- which is why F1 appeals. However, pure Camelot Bell genetics is tempting as well.

On the second question, what do you think of the advice I was given about starting over every 10 to 12 years? Does this still apply if you keep up the cover, fertilize, and feed?