Guys, Took the advice that was suggested about the scarecrows. I put up four, made them out of pressure treated 2x2's, adorned them with red flannel shirts, white trash bags for pants and old white gimmie caps. For now it is working. The breeze moves the fabric of the scarecrow and the birds have left and not returned. I know this is temporary so I did some more liiking and found a wholesale source for the ZON propane guns and have two on order. Sounds extreme but when you invest thousands in fish and five fish feeders along with the feed it makes sense to do everything reasonable to protect what youve started. Thanks for the feedback, both posted and direct. Bing