We are coming back full circle to what I mentioned in my post on the first page.
I'm a slow learner Bill!

Even after I've learned, then I forget it and have to relearn it again.

Been doing some searching after reading Shorty's post in another thread. One of the things I came up with was a discussion where some guys were talking about certain ponds having mostly RES and RBS. Large numbers of good size fish and very few BG. Just makes me wonder what conditions were in those particular ponds that made them such good RES ponds and where the BG had not become the predominant species.