Pond Boss Forums GENERAL QUESTIONS Pond Boss $2.96 Gas...

... I haven't seen that in quite some time! Topped off my tank with 26.6 gallons for 79 bucks! Gas card is a perk, so boss will be happy, but it shocked the hell out of me!

If we wouldn't be sending a significant amount of our US gas abroad our gas would be even cheaper. So much for us as a country conserving our resources. It is always about making money. This thread can be deleted anytime.

Hey Bill, I was just commenting on the fact that I haven't seen these prices for quite some time now. Didn't mean to blow a nut, and certainly not political.

Just the average Joe putting fuel in his tank to get around

Non-pond and non-fishy threads can turn political and even go 'down hill' very easily on this and most forums. There are more appropriate places than here to discuss non-pond stuff such as facebook, etc.

What about Happy Birthday's. That's non pond and fishy stuff related?

I think this part of the forum allows you the freedom to discuss other things, within reason, and I think decent gas prices at the pump are reasonable.

Not even, and don't even care why they are, but if I can save a buck, That's Cool!

Keep Wall Street out of it and prices would be below $2


Pat W

$3.01 a gallon by my house, $2.95 a gallon 15 miles south.

I've given up on politics and politicians. Neither of the two major political parties cares about the American people. Just keeping power... There's my political rant for the day.

Still waiting to see diesel cheaper than gasoline.....

Don't hold your breath...

Yeah I just paid 2.98 this morning for gas!! With our kroger discount we could get it for 2.88!! Hard to believe we are all excited over 3 dollar gas........ LOL When it wasn't very long ago it was like 89 cents a gallon....

RC

CJB... AMEN!

Scott,
The last time I remember diesel cheaper than gasoline was before they started making cars that used diesel. Has it become cheaper since?

Nope, diesel is still more per gallon than gas.

Ok so I'll bite? Why is it more expensive? I hav never had anything diesel sooooo didn't really matter to me but just wondering why is it more expensive? Is it because of how it's made or not enough?? Just wondering...

RC

Supply and demand is my best guess...

RC51, I'm not sure why it's more expensive.

U.S. refineries produce an average of about 10 gallons of diesel fuel from one barrel (42 gallons) of crude oil.

U.S. refineries produce about 19 gallons of motor gasoline from one barrel (42 gallons) of crude oil.

From what I've heard, gasoline takes more refinement steps to produce, so from my thinking, it would be more expensive than diesel to produce.

All gasoline, when produced is unleaded. Remember leaded gas? Tetrahedral lead was added to gasoline to make "leaded gas". When unleaded gas first hit the market, it was priced at more $ per gallon than leaded gas. In my mind, it was strictly a marketing ploy to make more profit, although I could be wrong.

Then you have your state, local and federal taxes per gallon.
http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/fuel-taxes

Here in Indiana, according to that website it is .57/gal for gas, .74/gal for diesel.

$2.92 at BP station this am

I hear the Canadians gave up on the Keystone pipeline and are going to build their own cross country pipeline going west to east cutting us out of the loop.

I can't wait till there is a better 'charge holder' for doing onsite solar with storage for cloudy days (all winter here in SW Michigan) The breakthroughs in solar, solar efficiency, new mass holding tanks for 'charge' (vs batteries) are accumulating rapidly.

I"m glad that solar aeration is a popular topic on this site as well. A good area for entrepeneurs as well.

$2.86 early last week...jumped to $3.29 for 3 days and is back to $2.88 now

Taxes, buddy, taxes....trucks pay the way and we pay in higher prices.

My GVW on my new truck is 42,000 pounds...Apportioned License plate for the 18 states I am "authorized to drive in is almost $900/yr, plus I have to track all fuel bought/mileage driven in each state and pay a fuel tax on top of the taxes paid at the pump...states like Kentucky charge every truck entering their fine state, $25 minimum for the privilege to just enter and not even stop, plus, you are rewarded with an extra $.40 per gallon surcharge tax on top of the taxes paid at the pump (based on quarterly fuel mileage reported) for the miles driven in their fine state....And people wonder why a loaf of bread that costs $.15 to bake is $2.50 at the store to buy....

As for the original leaded/unleaded costs, I'm sure it was partially a marketing ploy, but originally, the higher price was needed mostly to cover the huge loans/expense every station had to spend to get new fuel storage tanks buried, new pumps, smaller sized discharge nozzles, hoses, etc that were federally mandated on every fuel station selling gasoline....that is why so many stations closed down during that changeover also...

Diesel used to have far lower tax on it until the EPA required low sulpher for fuel, huge mileage efficiency improvements and newer engines that produce zero emissions now at the exhaust outlet (add the cost of Diesel exhaust fluid to the per gallon costs)...

But once transport truck mileage was improved, the gubments needed the tax revenue lost from the higher MPG, so they really jacked up the diesel taxes

Yep. Here the difference in diesel fuel at the pump if I have a DOT number is less than $0.05 per gallon. (the difference between "exempt trucks only" prices and auto diesel prices).

I won't buy the "exempt" fuel because after you pay your IFTA fuel tax...you pay about 40 cents a gallon more to save that nickel up front...Exempt stations ARE a marketing ploy on the drivers that never see or deal with the tax payments. Most companies would fire a driver buying fuel at them...

Wow.... thanks for the replies.... I think? My head hurts now....

RC

The more I learn, the angrier I become...

$2.84 yesterday and I dumped my XOM stock.

I expect it will hit $2.50 gal in Northern OK by November, along with a record number of earthquakes. The locals are smiling all the way to the bank.