ewest, thanks for the link. When you scrap muck out of the pond do you do anything in particular with it? I was wondering if it could be used like top soil. I have some areas around my pond that the soil is very poor, being the dirt/clay that came out of the bottom of my pond when it was dug. I'm having a heck of a time getting grass established. I would think that the muck would be very high in nutrients and mabe I could till it into my clay and get some grass growing. Any thoughts on this? Thanks again.