Ok ok cool in the boat it worked great! I think that's what my problem was too when I was overhand casting I am not waiting long enough for the line to load up. When I let the line lay down in the water behind me I got an easy 4 more feet on my cast! Thanks for the info Dirk I apprecaite it!

RC

The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!