thanks for the info. it is just weird how it occurs. i started wondering if it was leaking from the "depths" of my pond, but really think it is just from a wet weather spring. oh well. nothing i can really do about it, and not too concerned since it doesn't drain into my pond. however, i was thinking about putting a capture pond in down below and pump that water back into my main big pond. i wonder what affects that water would have on my big pond. thanks