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 Here is how they should look after about a year�. See the markings?
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Those are beautiful bass Todd. I can't wait to see mine a year from now! 
It ain't much of story if you don't have pictures!
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Todd,
Thanks again for letting me tag along and learn. The lessons are still soaking in.
About the confirmation I see two of the three clearly and the third softly.
Did you by chance measure that fish for RW? And can you tell us what you feed it? I am using the Tilapia and CNBG fry for now in the Topias. As mine get bigger, I will see if I need to adjust the "food."
Again, thanks for all you do for us. I get to learn and plus up the genetics all at the same time because of the work you do.
Brian
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- 13 December, 2012 Caught my first fin clipped CB LMB last week - weighed in at ~2 lbs @ 15 inches - 8 months old!  Brian, this is what your "jumpers" will look like at ~8 months! Todd picked you out some really nice fish! G/
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Well I got out to the farm the past few days and I found that Extratopia is loosing water faster than the other two topias. Also, its temperature is higher by a few degrees and its thermal-cline is a bit shallower as well. SO, I channeled my inner Redneck and came up with a solution I think will help, but it is not overkill in the least. Here is my solution. I am running well water through hoses to the feeder on Extratopia. A single zip-tie holds the hose to the top of the feeder and the stick aims the flow. I have the water on a timer which is set for 3:15AM each day. It runs for 45 minutes and adds about a tenth of an inch to the pool. I choose 3:15AM because of the O2 it adds to the water when it should be needed most. Experts, thoughts? To correct the other two potential problems, I moved the nozzle forward so any drips fall on the ground not the feeder, and the hose has been routed so as to not block the solar panel for the feeder. All in all, I learned a few things this week, 1) I need to run water to the topias for summer fillings, and 2) if I am going to trench out to the topias, I might as well add power to the list of things I am going to run.  One other note. If I add another topia to the mix, it has already been named.
Brian
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...1) I need to run water to the topias for summer fillings, and 2) if I am going to trench out to the topias, I might as well add power to the list of things I am going to run... I'll give you $100 for all your solar stuff. Cash in hand!
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I'm wondering why there isn't a solar water pump.......  Yes Brian, I'm just jabbing ya a bit. If you hadn't have called I wouldn't have looked here until late this evening.
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Brian, just ignore Scott. I'll give you $150, and can be there in 20 minutes, give or take the few 50 mph speed traps between us.
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It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa
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I just have one thing to say:
Repurpose Repurpose Repurpose
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This is ridiculous. Brian, to keep these guys from hounding you, I'll just pick the stuff up and keep it here. I'll store it somewhere that's a good distance away from the casa.
Like maybe my brood pond?
EDIT TO PLAY WITH TEXT
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I have a really good place with big white guard dogs...shhhhhhhhhh!
Brian, you know that I am the only one of these guys you can trust - right?
G/
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$160.00. Why expose it to tornado damage? Lots of sunlight here to keep it healthy.
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Brian, we know you're not greedy, So, I'll offer to trade you one water pump that will fill each topia in an hour, AND fill the gas tank! I'll put out a rescue blimp and you can just dive bomb my house in the FedEx jet next time you are in STL to p/u, and deliver the solar toys.....I'll even rig some fireworks mortars so you can call it a flash back to avoiding ack ack when the FAA craps themselves over the maneuver....fun, creative and fills the topias
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One other note. If I add another topia to the mix, it has already been named.
snrubtopia! Wow, I'm honored! Who would have thought......
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Allen, I agree this is ridiculous!! NOW even George is driving this bus!! Dudley, Far too much Tabasco in your part of the swamp to be safe...... Rex, Man that is tempting!!! In my younger years, I would be in!! But now, sadly, the bossman does not let me play that way with the toys. John, Snrubtopia is off the list. Just saying. BTW, do any of the experts like or dislike the re-fill/aeration system? This is after all a pond information site.....
Brian
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If the refill option is on long enough to keep up with evaporation I'm all for it. But, if it's a long term solution, I'd make something that once it was on, there would be enough flow to keep the well pump from cycling on and off.....
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Brian, I'd have to think in your current drought climate temps, at .1 inch addition, you are only reducing daily loss from evaporation to about 1.4" per day. I would assume you are just tapping into energy already being consumed, but I would put the highest flow jet nozzle and place the stream low and flat on the topia surface hoping to get some minor circulation started and minimize the aerating because there is a faster evap rate on the same surface area that adds DO. You have a low biomass right now, so LOW DO should not be a concern with the low volume of well water. I don't know how much more volume of flow lowering total head pressure might gain you here, but max flow fresh water and more of it would be better even without creating a circulation, IMO...an added benefit might also be slightly cooler water temps as a result of the idea suggested.
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Brian, I see 2 possible issues and one of them could get nasty.
I don't know all that much about aeration but do know that fountains aren't all that efficient or effective. Aeration actually works by creating mini ripples under the surface that spreads across the water column. It might be more effective to toss the hose into the water to actually move the water around. You're actually adding non O2 water to the pond after passing through the air. But it won't help stratification. The wild card might be the different temps of the well water and the existing pond water.
Now the nasty part. Your friends, Al, Scott, Dudley, George and John all want to buy your sunshine generators. No matter what the outcome,there is bound to be hard feelings among them and you. To solve the problem, I'll take it off your hands to solve yours and their problems. I have thick skin and don't like any of those guys anyway. Since it's a long drive, there might be a minimal fee involved.
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It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa
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Brian, I have available a heavy duty industrial electric water pump that may be useful if you choose to run elec to the topias. You have done an outstanding job in developing your solar systems that will be useful when and where needed.
This heavy duty pump is used for multiple sprinkler systems that may work for you - I continue to believe the very best way to maintain water level in the topias is from the lake - that is very good oxygenated water.
G/
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I agree with you on using the lake, George....close, oxygenated, and not much head pressure or total lift needed, so lower HP required to power!
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Well I got out to the farm the past few days and I found that Extratopia is loosing water faster than the other two topias. Also, its temperature is higher by a few degrees and its thermal-cline is a bit shallower as well. SO, I channeled my inner Redneck and came up with a solution I think will help, but it is not overkill in the least. Here is my solution. I am running well water through hoses to the feeder on Extratopia. A single zip-tie holds the hose to the top of the feeder and the stick aims the flow. I have the water on a timer which is set for 3:15AM each day. It runs for 45 minutes and adds about a tenth of an inch to the pool. I choose 3:15AM because of the O2 it adds to the water when it should be needed most. Experts, thoughts? To correct the other two potential problems, I moved the nozzle forward so any drips fall on the ground not the feeder, and the hose has been routed so as to not block the solar panel for the feeder. All in all, I learned a few things this week, 1) I need to run water to the topias for summer fillings, and 2) if I am going to trench out to the topias, I might as well add power to the list of things I am going to run. One other note. If I add another topia to the mix, it has already been named. Brian, here's a pic of my first redneck aeration system I rigged up before Bill Cody was kind enough to get me on the right track. This is the pump I referred in earlier post. G/ 
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You'd be suprised how fast well water absorbs O2 from the air.
Brian, you have a meter. Can you run well water into a bucket and keep the end of the hose submerged in the water and test the O2 levels, then do the same thing except keep the end of the hose out of the bucket by about 3'-4' and test the O2 level again once the bucket refills? I'll bet the difference in O2 levels will suprise DD1.
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