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Alex Gonzalez rocks.

Believe it or not, both of the fish I'm holding in the photo are UNDER 12 inches.


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Thanks a lot guys for providing the pictures of 11" and 12"+ BG. Now every one can see what a big BG is supposed to look like. The hump on the forehead is a distinct feature for those "bull" bluegill. Actually when you see the hump you know instantly without a tape measure that it is in the trophy size category. This thread now resides in the Growing Big bluegill Archives.

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This is one of my favorites helmet headed female with distinctive coloring and scale tipping..




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Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello
The body dynamics of George's fish are awesome! I get a kick out of seeing those fish ever time. smile Long is good, but tall is gooder.
Thanks Bruce, you may recall back in the olden days, you convinced Dave D. and I that BG were not bait! grin
Now we need incorporate “Long is good, but tall is gooder“ scale for both your northen strain BG and our southern CNBG.
Beautiful creatures!



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Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello
The body dynamics of George's fish are awesome! I get a kick out of seeing those fish ever time. smile Long is good, but tall is gooder.


Yeah you need a ladder to climb the forehead of the first 3 fish he has pics up of..


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I haven't grown a 11 or 12 incher yet but they are wide and heavy for their length.



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Beautiful fish Cecil I'd have to say I like it just as much as those Richmond fish..

I'm a little (alot) biased to the Northerns smile


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Here's my avatar and another brute





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I'm shooting for a quad-hump.....





"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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Your getting there too sprk.. I'm shooting for a forehead that grows past the lips lol smile


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I'm shooting for a 2 lb. bluegill.


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Originally Posted By: Bluegillerkiller
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Did you get a weight on the fish Bluegillerkiller?


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I did but not sure where I have it.. they were both under 1.5lbs but close the lighter colored fish was actually a little heavier..
I'm also looking to hit that 2 lb mark


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Wow amazing bull gills guys! I love that golden morph of yours BGK - I have one around the dock that has the same coloration characteristics...his name is Sonny, and I caught him last week and caged him for my Male BG pond. I'll be stocking him this weekend with Bruce.

T - love those helmets - keep em coming!


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Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
It is a nice BG. It is a male fish. I'm not saying that you are wrong about that BG being 12" long, BUT if you do a proportional measurement of the angler's ring finger, the calculation says the fish is 9 3/8" to 9.5" long. I am tall 6.3" and my ring finger is 3.25" long. Measure the length of your ring finger as an example. If I give the picture and you the benefit of doubt and say the ring finger is a lengthy 3.5" a direct proportional calculation of finger length and fish length the fish is 9.4"long. In other words: The angler's ring finger goes into the length of the fish 2.7times. 3.5"x2.7 = 9.4". Your fish looks like and has features of a standard BG that is about 10" long. See next.

When one is very familiar with BG 10.5"-11" and larger,,,, the body shape of the BG in the picture above is not normal for a big male BG 11"-12" long. Big BG aka "bulls" develop a hump of muscle on the forehead and less recognized a smaller hump sometimes behind the dorsal fin as noted by the current issue of In-Fisherman magazine June2014, pg12. Look at the big bluegill pictures on Bigbluegill.com and here. You will easily notice the hump on the forehead. Your fish does not possess the characteristic shape of a "bull" male bluegill. Your fish is a male.

Here on this pond forum we have numerous experts of large fish species. When someone posts a picture of a trophy class fish of record quality, we like to see a picture of the fish lying beside a ruler to verify the true length especially when the fish does not have the correct body features for one that size of a particular species. We have numerous members here who grow and catch trophy size fish. We know what our big fish look like pretty well.

Hopefully for reference a member will provide a picture of a big "bull" male BG to show us what I am talking about. It would be even better if a ruler was included in the picture.

Bill, you might want to include these photos of immature one year old OTS CNBG for your archive, even though they are not the “bull” variety - they must have been off guarding their nests this morning.

The photos show perfect confirmation of pure strain Florida CNBG.
This Texas strain has been developed over near 10 years for confirmation.
I have looked at so many that I can tell from at a glance an Arkansas intergrade CNBG that have been “over the fence” culled early on in selection of brood stock.

Not to say that Intergrade CNBG are not trophy fish in some cases, but pure Florida traits are my favori4e.

We caught well over 50 of these prime specimens this morning which I thought might be good for ID of year old 8+ inch CNBG - only abot ¾ pound due to record cold winter - should be a pound and 9 inches in few weeks.
George Glazener







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I have 500 OTSBG put them in my new pond back in Nov they were 2 inch long caught one yesterday and it measured 5 inches just started feeding them back in January. Looking forward catching some as big as those George I took your advice bought them form Todd.

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