Thanks Bill, looks I have some weekend reading to do in between doing taxes here. That was the idea to add some fishies from the in law's pond because they are pellet trained and eat from pretty much anywhere that food is thrown around the pond banks at any time of day. It is all is making sense now on the waters ability to support the forage base, if I don't correct that first then any fish I'm adding is wasting money because although they will survive, they will not flourish.