snrub, I like your thoughts (I'm a complete newbie though). Something with a variety of size material seems best, with densely packed fine stuff being the hardest to come up with for me. Bailer twine is a nice neutral color so should work well for the dense stuff. I see they make snow fence in black as well. I think I'll start collecting twine. I don't scuba but I have friends that do (they work for beer). I'll check with our local HVAC supplies for those ties also. Thanks for the feedback - I'll try and get some before and after photos and see what happens.
