Bearbait1, my dogs can get up out of the ice, and have done so with a live barnyard goose in their mouths (dogs are 35#-40# max). But, they were in the water swimming after the geese long enough that they got cold and tired. I think they were in the water in below 0�F temps for 10-15 minutes before I saw them. They still didn't want to get out of the water - they were still chasing the geese. But, when I called them, and they tried to get out, they were too cold and pooped. That's when the "Oh crap I gotta do something NOW" set in.


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