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I think Connecticut's story that the cougar killed on their highway walked 1500 miles from South Dakota smells fishy. 
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Wild hogs and Cougars. I've crossed paths with both species in my many yrs on the trail. The first cougar was when I was 16. She was about 34 and drop dead beautiful and used to get me and my buddies Ripple (Pagan pink). I was so backward and thick I couldn't figure out why. Therefore I remained a virgin till I was 26 and the sad part was I married a wonderful woman that was as backward and thick as myself when I was 22. Now the wild hog encounters occurred after I divorced my wife and graduated to Jack Danials. Of course they were dainty little fawns while the JD was in effect. When JD wore off the tusks came out and one wrong word would get a sharp response form those powerful stiff legged stompings. Gave me a whole new respect for Ol Yelller, cried many times again.
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MSC, they did genetic testing on the CT animal. It matched the poop it left behind in Wisconsin. If you believe there are reproducing cougars in the east then I guess they've found a way to not get captured on game cameras or get hit by cars nearly as often as other populations.
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I'm saying if a cougar travels 1500 miles from SD to CT, it had some help.
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I'm saying if a cougar travels 1500 miles from SD to CT, it had some help. I followed that story fairly close when the cat started heading into my hometown area at the MN/WI western end of Lake Superior (near Duluth/Superior) and then its trek across the Michigan UP. It was struck and killed about 20 miles from where my in-laws live in Connecticut. They had a body. They had DNA. If it was a hoax, it sure fooled a lot of wildlife biologists and other professionals.
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Animals do some amazing things...
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Different states live trap and relocate cougars all the time. I wonder how many get released into other states? As many as 13 Texas cougars were released in Florida in the 90's. Some of these did travel over 100 or 200 miles after being released.
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I'd like to know where you get your info from MSC? It is very uncommon for states to trap and transfer cougars from one state to another. The federal government trapped Texas cougars to transfer to Florida for genetic diversity, which in my book made the whole Florida panther thing a mute point as there are no longer pure Florida panthers, so what's the point in protecting them as an endangered subspecies if they are no longer pure anyways?
There isn't a state in the east other than Florida that has had cougars trapped from other states and released into them. It's like the people who claim the insurance companies are releasing coyotes into eastern states to bring the deer population down.
Oh yeah, I saw a Big Foot last night, he ran in front of my car and my pet unicorn was killed by a chupacabra last week.
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A word to the wise CJBS2003......... Always keep you unicorns on a leash!!!! Those tickets are expensive  .
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CJ, I was just asking if it happens. Since so many states are live trapping 'problem' cougars and relocating them.
I agree with you about the Texas to Florida cougar relocations. FL already said they had too many in the same area of south Florida, and they needed to spread out and they were afraid of inbreeding, So they put 13 TX cougars in the same area. What?
Sorry for the cougar that made it over 200 miles to Georgia, where a deer hunter popped it.
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Yeah, and also the chupa's. The goat sucker has just gotta be real.
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My 15 yr old grandson and I got to got to go last weekend. He went to his stand and I headed to another one. It was late afternoon. I hadn't even gotten to sit down when I heard him shoot the 30-30. He sent a text saying he had shot a big hog but it had run away. I told him to sit still until I got there. By the time I got there we had about 30 minutes of daylight left and started casting around for sign. I found some blood so knew the general direction to look in some really thick junk. I could actually smell the damn thing. It got dark pretty quickly and I started getting nervous. Looking for a wounded, pissed off, hog in the dark with a scoped 243 can be a character builder. We looked for about 45 more minutes and I called it off. We went back the next morning and found a blood trail and finally found the hog piled up under a cedar tree. It was pointed our way but I have no idea what that might mean. I went to the house and got the FEL and about 75 yards of heavy rope. We drug it out and by the smell, knew that only Catmandoo would try to eat it. So we weighed it (205 pounds) and cut the head off for a skull mount. The buzzards and coyotes can have the rest. By the time we got all that done, it was time to head home.
I'm reminded of something I once heard about the difference between football and hunting wounded, dangerous, game at night. Football only requires one ball and I found myself to be what the Spaniards call a castrado.
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Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP Grandpa
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That article mentions the 8 Texas cougars that were relocated to Florida in '95. There were other such relocations. I believe the total number was 13 cougars from TX to FL.
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Dave, where are the photos from this adventure?
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My 15 yr old grandson and I got to got to go last weekend. He went to his stand and I headed to another one. It was late afternoon. I hadn't even gotten to sit down when I heard him shoot the 30-30. He sent a text saying he had shot a big hog but it had run away. I told him to sit still until I got there. By the time I got there we had about 30 minutes of daylight left and started casting around for sign. I found some blood so knew the general direction to look in some really thick junk. I could actually smell the damn thing. It got dark pretty quickly and I started getting nervous. Looking for a wounded, pissed off, hog in the dark with a scoped 243 can be a character builder. We looked for about 45 more minutes and I called it off. We went back the next morning and found a blood trail and finally found the hog piled up under a cedar tree. It was pointed our way but I have no idea what that might mean. I went to the house and got the FEL and about 75 yards of heavy rope. We drug it out and by the smell, knew that only Catmandoo would try to eat it. So we weighed it (205 pounds) and cut the head off for a skull mount. The buzzards and coyotes can have the rest. By the time we got all that done, it was time to head home.
I'm reminded of something I once heard about the difference between football and hunting wounded, dangerous, game at night. Football only requires one ball and I found myself to be what the Spaniards call a castrado. Coyotes didn't touch three wild hogs that someone threw out by the railroad tracks south of town here.
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Yeah, I've also seen that happen.
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Wild Hogs: Do you eat them things? Many years ago a guy at work shot one on a guided hunt with dogs, I think it was in NC. He brought some in that he had already cooked, they were like big pork chops, anyhow it was really good.
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All wild hog meat I have had has been quite good. I guess for some all it takes it one bad experience and they are forever ruined.
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We drug it out and by the smell, knew that only Catmandoo would try to eat it. Naw! Even I wouldn't waste my time with such a critter. I'd use my backhoe to dig a deep hole. As my close acquaintances know,I don't let much meat go to waste. I hate to see good roadkill go to waste. In the last 60+ years, I've helped, or fully butchered, many thousands of critters. In general, many mature warm-blooded male animals,ready for mating,are not good for eating. This is based on North American tastes and standards. As I found, while spending a lot of my life in other cultures, some of these strong tastes are highly desired in these other cultures. To most of us of European or Scandinavian descent in North America, the taste of meat from a mature boar hog or a mature billy goat, is not our dream of a great steak, roast, stew, or rack of ribs. IMO, this also goes for bear and sheep,etc. For us guys, think of a gas station urinal that hasn't been cleaned for about two weeks. To me, that kind of smell is what permeates the meat of many mature male warm-blooded mammals wanting to mate,especially hogs,bears sheep,and goats. I'm not sure if there is anything that can be done to remove this essence and taste. If there is, my father's generation and I have never found it. Yes, the meat can be used in very spiced and processed sausage, but to those of us who know what it is -- it is what it is.
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If you shoot a hog that stinks, just walk away. There is no way to get that smell out of the meat.
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Another time a guy at work shot a bear in Maine. He gave me a nice steak. I cooked it exactly the way he told me (the recipe had lipton onion soup mix in it). Anyhow it was terrible and stunk up the whole house.
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On a hunting forum I frequent, the general concensus is that Fall bear is much better tasting than Spring bear.
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