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Liquidsquid,

So you don't need a fishing license anymore to fish your own pond in the state of New York? I know I saw that in writing once.

If it was me animal I not only would not get a license I would put any damn fish I wanted in the pond. I can't imagine the DEC has the resources to go stomping around on private property to see if you have a license let alone the ability to see what you have in the pond.

Who needs pond lic when you have organic, free range, swimming pool!?!

Yes, no license required, I have the form upstairs as a result of my free registration of the pond.

The main purpose of registering is so they know the body of water I may be connected to and it's environmental sensitivity. I suppose if there were a natural resource downstream that had a rare ecosystem, I may have been restricted in what I couls stock. Maybe that is the problem?

If you get a Farm Fish Pond License then "Pond owner's should be aware that the laws governing fishing require all persons 16 years of age and older must have a fishing license except citizen-resident landowners and lessees or members of their immediate families actually occupying and cultivating farm lands when fishing on such lands. This means that guests or friends of the pond owner must have a license to fish the pond even though it is privately-owned."
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/7975.html

Without the farm fish pond license you need a fishing license.

I have the farm fish pond license which is appropriate for BOW less than 10acres. That is why I am interested in what license you have Liquidsquid. My license specifically states what species I can stock and how I can remove the fish from my pond. Alternatively there is a stocking license for lakes and streams, but here you must also list species to stock. Yes the licenses are free.

Thanks for bearing with me as this is all new to me and I am trying to gain a better understanding.

Contact the place you got the license from and ask them directly why you can't stock shiners,...or whatever. Don't give up till you get some kind of answer. Otherwise, all parties involved can make any assumptions they want but it may not be the real reason. You need to find out why from the "authorities" so you can move forward, legally or not. Keep records of who you talk to.

This is the form I filled out and sent in:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/stockingform.pdf

Myself and immediate family can fish without license and without size limits according to the reply.

Note: I did NOT fill out a farm fish pond form as mentioned in the title. I think that may be the problem as it may apply to harvesting fish for sale, meat or live.

Thanks. I was interested to see what license you had. I see you also have to list what fish you intend to stock.

For the farm fish pond license I have, I will need to get an amended license to cover new species of fish I wish to stock. So anything new will need to be approved by the DEC they can track species of fish stocked.

It is a very interesting process where planning and patients are key.

I guess back to the YP idea to feed the hungry SMB.

From a casual search, it appears to me that a Farm fish pond license is intended more for commercial use....what I would consider a hatchery pond. My take on the matter is that unless you intend to produce fish for sale, you may have the wrong license.

Granted, I know nothing about the rules and regs of New York, but I think a Fish stocking permit is what you really need, UNLESS you intend to produce fish commercially.

I think you're jumping through more hoops than may be necessary.

Alright, after another call to the DEC I think I understand better the two permits.
1) Farm Fish Pond Permit: Only for fully private property BOW. Allows for stocking and removal of fish outlined in permit. Immediate family and workers can fish in BOW without state fishing license.

2) Fish Stocking Permits: It is a more general permit that allows for stocking of fish in any body of water (including private property). Separate state fishing license is needed to fish.

You cannot fish in a NY BOW (even privately held) without a NY fishing license with the exception of the Farm fish pond permit.

Both permits will state what species of fish you can stock. If you would like to introduce a different species, then you need to "update" the permit to include it.

This has been an interesting learning thread that I didn't even know before I started.

Wow and i thought NJ's regulations where bad I still hate the fact that I need a license to fish my own bow but at least I'm not alone.

As far as fhm go,I've tossed the idea around of sectioning off a small part of my pond for them.I figured if they had a predator free zone to breed and be happy it may be possible to have a constant supply of the little guys.For you it might be a worthy experiment.

The problem I see with sectioning is it would take one jumper to clean you out. A neighbor of mine has a dedicated feeder pond with only FHM. So far he thinks it is working out, but transferring fish from one pond to another is a management pain for him. I like what I saw earlier is an uphill pond that you could siphon/drain water/fish into the lower pond on occasion.