catmandoo-
Thanks for the information. I've done some lurking before i officially posted, I was just worried they were stunted or something from lack of food. I will definitely go up there next week and try with the worms and bobbers. The water clarity is just a little rough and haven't seen much on the waters edge. I do see some fishes coming towards the edge and attacking/eating something. Ill try to measure and do the weight estimates. Should i move this to another section when i update?

Fish n Chips-
I haven't seen anything in there. Only turtles really hang out there. I gave that a thought as well. Maybe growing some larger bait fish in there. Doing some forage cocktail in there. Only problem is... it is at a higher elevation than the main pond so if it rains im not sure if some fish/eggs will float on down into it. Maybe i can rig up some netting around the border.