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Yes, Cecil, I do...

Ewest, I'm no stranger to hotly debated topics on forums other than PondBoss....and I agree that emotions have an unfortunate tendency to cloud the issue, and make productive discussion virtually impossible.

And, I also believe it's far less problematic to talk about building ponds, and how many of what kind of fish to stock, and what to use to kill algae, and the benefits of aeration....all of that is important, helpful, and fundamental to being able to enjoy a pond...surely one of the goals of this forum.

And while I respect, and try to abide by the forum's rules, it is my sincere hope that the forum's decision to take the high road doesn't make us late to the water rights battlefield that I think lies ahead.

Sorry for another hijack...I started this post an hour and a half ago, but it's been a fairly busy morning in the shop.....no more interruptions from me!

Just an idea,

Some forums have an R&P section that are allowed via request only. You must abide by the rules of no name-calling, personal insults, etc. If not, you get the boot from that section, not the entire forum.

It stays surprisingly civil if threats of getting the boot are understood.

See www.techreport.com forums for example. Their forums are moderated very much like these (and why I enjoy coming to both!) but their R&P forum is a great place to exchange ideas that normally fall into delete/locked categories. I don't go in there often since some folks on there are far smarter than I in politics and I just get wound up because I am dumb that way. I only go in R&P when it is a subject that I am interested in learning more about such as gun control. Amazing resource it is because like-minded people can bring a lot of far-reaching information to the table to digest.

The arguments for the most part stay low-key, sometimes not, but for the most part, nothing like the comments at the end of new articles.

Asbestos suit required!

It also makes a great location to move threads that sometimes fall into R&P land to let discussions continue, but in a room with wall padding and flame retardant.

And no, I was not around for the first forum. To be frank this site is hard to find unless you have a leaky pond, otherwise I would have been here long ago.

Agreed Eric but there's a big difference between civially debating politics and rioting. And things can get out of hand in a country in a big hurry where the populous is told they will have to give up half of their pensions and almost half of the young people are unemployed. Comparing apples to oranges.

My relatives are German btw.

Cecil I hear you. Had in mind ethnic riots in France , killings of the same in several countries , economic problems caused by politics , discriminatory laws and polices all over Europe , France 's soak the rich policies driving out productive citizens followed by threats against them when they leave as unwanted and more. Europe is very angry ! BTW I have German on 1/4 of my family ( Millers came to the US in 1820 +-) as farmers and merchants.

Sprk I understand and have been involved in the water wars. Look for much more to come and it is very hostile.

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Time to move this thread back on course please !!!

Back on track. Any of you heard from



Frank Pinkston (Frank) who comes by once in a while and was at the Atlanta meeting. He is member No. 11.


Russ Shultis (Russ) who posts on occasion. He is member No. 12

FYI Bill Cody is # 24 and there is no No. 1. Bob is No 3

FYI from Atlanta

"We decided at the meeting to take a group photo and let everyone who did not attend guess at the names. I see that nobody has taken on that game yet. Any players out there?

Here is the original list:

Number Attending and Name

1 Bill Duggan
1 Bill Thorpe
1 Bob Lusk
1 Calder Pinkston
1 Cary Martin
1 Cary McDaniel
1 Dave Davidson
1 David Pendergrast
1 Debra G. King
1 Eric West
2 Frank Pinkston
1 Greg Grimes
1 Hal Lelle
1 Jack Green
2 JB and Racquel Allen
2 Johnny Tanner
1 Mike Otto
1 Paul Williams
1 Phyllis Lea
2 Randy Cooper
1 Randy Edgar
1 Ric Swaim
1 Robert Coleman
2 Ted Lea
1 Troy Pugh
2 Warren and Lynda Gilbert
2 Wayne and Eloise Edwards "


PB Ga group pic

Frank was one of the posters that put together the the Atlanta meeting. Lives outside of Macon Ga. Good guy

Frank is a great guy and a wiz with RW programs and remote weather sensing equipment. He went way above the call of duty in helping me and others with the Atlanta meeting.

An interesting couple of recollections re the Atlanta meeting.

Due to family commitments(Wife) I wasn't going. Lusk called and said he had an extra ticket due to his Wife not being to make it. I said no but I mentioned it to my Wife who postponed her plans and told me to go. So Bob xferred the ticket to my name.

When we got to the Airport check in area Bob and Mike went through first with no problem. I showed my ID which is in my real name Samuel Zeno Davidson Jr. That doesn't match up with Dave and it appears that Dave Davidson is on the no fly/bad guy/ terrorist list. This was in the early days of the TSA. The check in guy spent about 5 minutes on the computer and then told me probably no big deal but that he would have to go upstairs to get more info. He was gone about 20 minutes and came back with an OK. However, during that whole time my smartass buddies, Bob and Mike, were enjoying my discomfort by making loud comments about dangerous, suspicious looking characters, Ayrab terrorists, etc. Gotta admit I was getting just a wee bit nervous and Bob and Mike didn't do much to make me feel good about this whole thing. I'd have given anything for a pocketful of rocks to nail them with.

We got to the meeting at a nice clubhouse, surrounded by expensive homes, next to a beautiful lake that Greg was managing. Mike and I agreed that we needed to be on our best behavior at a place like this. At the first break I headed to the mens room. When I came out Mike said, in a really loud voice, "Dave, did you wash your hands? You know what your Wife said.". All eyes turned to me and you could have heard a pin drop. Mikey has an evil sense of humor and once again there were no rocks anywhere.

I recall an extreme temp drop and you and Greg electrofishing. Also recall dinner the night before. A lot of good stories and peanuts by Bill.

I remember that I was late - that's why I wound up setting next to Bob. And yes, I lived in Atlanta, and was probably the closest to the event. It did turn real cold when Dave and Greg went electrofishing...