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#328252 03/31/13 06:15 PM
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The Soil Conservation guy says there is nearly 20 Acres of watershed coming into my proposed pond site. As you can see from the attached images, much of the watershed area is wooded or lawn.


I have shown in the second image a pond with approximately .75 surface acres. The concern is about silt and leaves. The soil consrvation recommends nothing less than 1 surface acre with this much watershed.



I certainly don't have the experience to "over rule" his recommendation. I am hoping that some of you folks do.

Thanks in advance.

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With the thick trees in the watershed, you should not have an issue with siltation, unless there's a lot of construction going on in the watershed. Don't really see how leaves would be a problem though.

The recommendation he gave you is very non-specific. The amount of water you'll get off a 20 acre watershed will vary greatly depending on several different variables. Those variables include average watershed slope, vegetation type, vegetation condition, soil type (sand =percolation, while clay = more runoff), and of course the intensity of the rainfall event. FYI the trees will help you by slowing the water as it comes down the watershed, moreso than open pasture.

I think you will be fine with the 0.75 acre pond. Just make sure you have a wide enough spillway (enough to handle a big storm) and you compact the dam well during construction. Recommend packing in 9" layered lifts as a minimum. If necessary, a sheeps-foot roller helps compaction if the soil has a high clay content.

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Bigger is always better! laugh

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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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If you do anticipate a lot of silt and leaves you could always build a settling pond in the main drainage-way.

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One thing you need to be cautious of is both fertilizer and insecticides running off the lawns.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

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Thanks for all the words of advice. I have laid out the approximate area of the pond and the future building location. I've been getting quotes the have a huge range of cost. Some as high as $40,000 for the clearing, gravel drive, and pond excavation. It starting to look like this project may be cost prohibitive. If anyone has experience with a contractor in the Cincinnati area that may be interested in looking at the job please let me know.

Thanks, Dan

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Skip the gravel drive, save for another time. If the trees are of any value you can hire a logger to come in and pay YOU to harvest the lumber. You can then probably clean the rest yourself or find a landscaping crew.

That may take a chunk out of the cost, but nobody said ponds are cheap. $40K is a lot for a 1ac pond IMHO, should be in the ~20K area unless you are moving soil off-site or a distance that needs a dumptruck. I basing that on my experience of a simple 0.6acre pond being <10K without needing soil moved with a dump.

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Depends on how many trees need to be cleared, height & length of the dam, material type for intake pipe, valve, etc., and how far the dirt needs to be moved from to form the dam, and how deep they need to go to put the key into the dam, ... a lot of variables so its hard to compare pond pricing.

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4.5 acre woodland pond constructed Feb 2011
- began fill Aug 25 - full pool Nov 18
- fish stocked Oct 25: 1200 Shellcracker; 3800 bluegill bream; 500 channel catfish
May 2012: 500 LMB May 2012; 50 "permitted" sterile grass carp.



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