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On a personal basis, I like to stock Golden Trout in my pond because I like to see the fish swimming around, and watching them come up for food. I've found that the Goldens are more agressive towards lures than RBT when stocked in the same pond. A couple of years ago I stocked 75 RBT adn 25 Goldens in my pond. I caught the Goldens 3:1 vs the RBT even tho their population was lower.
I don't plan on feeding the RBT. My thinking is that they will be hungier than yours, which should make it easier for catching???? I am kind of happy/sad about my situation. I don't think I would be considering trout if it wasn't for this unexpected hatch. But now I get to see if I like trout, however they most likely will not be prime table fare by spring.
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I noticed little fry yesterday. Caught one and is was about 3/8" long, and with a tranparent body. Seems like a big size difference from the others. Could this be from the same hatch where some are now 1.5" long?
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Even wth feeding, the trout weren't shy about biting a small spoon or a small spinner. When I ice fished on the other side of the pond, I'd catch more trout than BG.
Can you put a few of the small fry in a mason jar and take a good close up pic? They might be from an even later hatch.
I doubt that the table fare quality will change from now 'till spring.
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Well the easy and casual life of those little fish are over. Trout, bass, and redear are stocked.
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A few pics, but only a few. I was planning on taking many, but when I opened the first bag, several of the trout where stressed and I wanted to move quickly instead of worrying about the pictures. It turned out that the first bunch I opened up were the only ones in trouble. The two shown are ones that didn't make it. Needless to say they were dinner and gave us a chance to try them. The wife wasn't crazy about them, so we'll see if she warms up to them before I get more in the future. This is the first time I have been around trout. I can't get over how much more slippery these guys are. I was also suprised how large their mouth gap are. I thought it would be alot smaller. So far, a fun experiment. Glad it came about.
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Nice looking trout!
Wait 'till you catch them. You'll be telling them to quit flopping like I do. Slippery? Like an eel!!!
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Beautiful rainbows, they should grow quickly.
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Ok... Time for an update to my pond and its situation. I took the afternoon off and tried to catch RBT. As some may know, I haven't had the best of luck catching the trout. Not much has changed in that department. I have gone down to 2# test line and a black hook, baited with a SS brown pellet. Today was a sunny day and I could see every move the trout were making. Many would zoom in on the pellet when it hit the water, get about 6" from it and then take a sharp turn from it without even tasting it. Never did any take an interest if the SS pellet sank. If they hit it at all, it was when it immediately landed on the water. I did catch one. Just shy over 15" and weighed 2# 6 oz. I have seen noticeably less of the unknown small sunfish that prompted me to stock the RBT in the first place. Did the trout help with that, I hope so. I did not feed over the winter, and started feeding about the beginning of April. I trapped some of them today, and tried them for bait to see if the trout would take. Set it up with a bobber and tossed it out. No luck with it near the surface, so set it a bit deeper. Something took it, and went off flying. Snapped the line rather quickly so can't say for sure what it was. Opened up the RBT to see what it has been eating. All pellets, and a few shells. I am curious as to how it ate shells. By eating another fish? By thinking it was a pellet? Seems hard to imagine the trout eating off the bottom. There were no sunfish in the stomach, but I find it hard to believe that this fish got to this size without eating them over the winter, and only being on feed for a month. Next time I will try with the sunfish for bait again to see if it can be confirmed what that might have been. Hard to believe it was a bass that could have gotten big enough. Thanks Pond Boss for making this happen. Never would have thought that this venture would have taken this route. I have enjoyed the RBT a lot. So much so, that if I had to do it all again, I might consider the pond devoted to just them. This is only one of many reasons why I tend to believe in working with what you got, and learning from it. You never know where it might take you. ......Jim
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Hatchery trout are dumb as a bag of bricks when it comes to them mistaking other items for brown pellets. The stream behind our cabin is lined in hemlocks. The trout gorge themselves on the fallen hemlock cones that fall into the water and are small and brown. Rainbow trout seem to be even more stupid than brown trout in this regard. In those rare years where we get the trout to hold over the summer, they seem to get brighter and hold over trout rarely eat junk. I am betting your rainbows were thinking the snails were pellets...
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Fish,that is a pretty fish.
Two ponds, 13 and 15 acres on the Mattaponi River.
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Try a 1/16 oz. little cleo spoon. Silver or gold and orange. Or a small rooster tail spinner.
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Looks like a washed out in color GSF to me...
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yeah, this one seemed to turn a yellowish pink color as soon as it was pulled from the pond. Never turned back to its normal color. The color is pretty accurate in the photo, just blury.
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Looking back, I see that I never stated what I actually ended up stocking.
48 RBT 11-14" 22 LMB 4-6" 3 LMB 6-8" 100 red ear 4-6" 100 BG 4-6" 50 BG 6-9" 50 CC
I had wanted to get more LMB 6-8", but that's all they had.
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What are they? I will show my ignorance and say 1-mix GSF and BG that leans towards GSF 2-mix GSF and BG 3-BG
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They look like BG to me. Could be a few odd genes but high % BG.
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I'm with Ewest. They look like BG to me.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Well, that sounds promising so far. Guess I'm paranoid about the GSF, considering that I had some spawn late last year. I'm kind of on a quest to see if I can catch some of those culprits.
Thanks Guys.
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Yeah, I am see all BG in the photos, don't stress to much!
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Caught this one in the pond today. Length is 6.5". My guess is GSF?? Also, under the best of growing scenarios, what year could this one have been born? I bet it is at least one, of who knows how many, that I was trying to catch last fall. By its colors and shape, looks pretty darn close to the little ones I have been finding before my stocking.
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That's a Greenie all right.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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I got a ? is that the same thing as a warmouth looks like what I have heard called a warmouth just a lot bigger than what I catch
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WM is not the same as GSF but they are related.
That is a GSF or at least a high % GSF genes. Could have a few BG genes as the color on the fins/tail is a trait of HBG.
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