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Mig is nice, Tig is prettier! Depending on material thickness Tig might be better too, especially with aluminum. We've welded some pretty thick aluminum with Tig, but we also used a torch to pre-heat the aluminum.
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I've got a stick and a nice MIG, but I lust after a TIG.....
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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I've got a stick and a nice MIG, but I lust after a TIG..... Hope your wife doesn't read your posts, Tony. Shame on you!
Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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This is the bed I came up with. They would be arranged like this. 6' in between to get my LT1050 in with cart's and stuff. Maybe I should make it 8' in between so I could get my truck or kubota in there? I would get a smaller tiller to work these tho. I did some measuring and would probably be safe with putting 4 of these in this year without any trees coming down and busting them up.. I have to rip out 5 test beds and fill in my test hole for the pond. This is where I originally wanted the (GW) pond, but I have no drainage issues here anymore. I was really happy when I hit water the first time with the test hole. It held for quite some time at about 18" below the surface. Luna use to swim in it. It all went away tho. This hole only went 6' deep, and not a drop in subsequent years. I went to a lower elevation on the property and went 8', and it was bone dry. I have my theories as to what happened with the GW, and it all coincides with an excavator terracing off a lower elevation hill and they broke thru an underground dam that was retaining our GW. My Dad has 3 sump pumps in his basement to keep it dry, and not one has kicked in since this happened. JKB I like this idea but ill tell you you'll hate this after one season.. Any widths over 3' are a pain in the a$$ to work from one side and hard on the back..mine started out as 3' and are now closer to 2' just for this reason you want to be able to step right over them instead of walking around..
I believe in catch and release. I catch then release to the grease.. BG. CSBG. LMB. HSB. RES.
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I've got a stick and a nice MIG, but I lust after a TIG..... Hope your wife doesn't read your posts, Tony. Shame on you! I know, I know......I'm weak! 
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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I've got a stick and a nice MIG, but I lust after a TIG..... Yeah, we're a sick bunch of average dudes. I keep thinking about a TIG, but I just can't justify the cost for the few times I'd use it every year. That is why I gave up my Victor torches/guages/hoses a number of years ago. I had rental tanks, and the cost per year just wasn't worth it. I also sold my 1960s Lincoln Tombstone a number of years ago because I got tired of throwing away sticks where the flux all deteriorated off. My little Lincoln 140 MIG does pretty much all I need. The wire doesn't go bad (I just use flux core). I've done enough welding in the last 50-some years to know ways to safely extend what can be done with a small welder. Mostly, I miss being able to cut fairly thick material, and there are things I'd still like to braze. I just haven't had many occasions when I've needed to, or wanted to, weld aluminum. But, my little machine would handle that too if I bought the wire and had the bottle re-filled. I figure if you live in the country, and especially if you own a tractor, you need to have a welder of some kind. As we are mainly talking about gardening in this thread, I can't even begin to estimate how many trellises, cages, and other garden structures I've made over the years with re-bar, T-posts, and/or livestock panels that wouldn't have been possible without a small welder.
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Two words Ken: Plasma cutter....
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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2nd that and the tig although I suck with a tig
I believe in catch and release. I catch then release to the grease.. BG. CSBG. LMB. HSB. RES.
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Unfortunately, it is thick stuff -- like 1/2 to 1-1/2 inches that I can't cut or reasonably drill with what I now have, but could with my old O/A stuff. That puts me at an 80 amp plasma cutter, which I unfortunately just can't justify. My drill press, angle grinders, and reciprocating saw will just have to do.
It just means work-arounds.
As for TIG -- I've never tried it. How hard can it be?
A number of years ago, I needed some free-hand ink-on-paper line drawings, and some pencil-on-paper shaded drawings of people and equipment, for a brochure. I met with a neighbor who did this, mostly as a hobby. I showed her photos of what I needed for the montages. She said, "why can't you do that? Just start, and keep going. It is simple." These skills are kind of like written tests. They are real easy if you know the answers.
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I rented a hydraulic-based tiller last spring (Troy?) and that thing was great to work with in rocky soil! No shear pins, no stalling, just forward and reverse. It was a BEAST. Shredded new ground down 6-8 inches after two passes, and that is saying something with our heavy soil.
Too bad it cost a stinking fortune. It would pay for a lot of fresh veggies from the farm market for years. I will stick with renting and my shovel. Only really need to rent it for breaking up sod, otherwise the shovel works fairly well, and is awfully cheap. I can turn over 50'x50' in about an hour or so.
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Mig is nice, Tig is prettier! Depending on material thickness Tig might be better too, especially with aluminum. We've welded some pretty thick aluminum with Tig, but we also used a torch to pre-heat the aluminum. I have a 50' Python for my Powermig 300. It does a really nice job with aluminum. It takes a bit to get use to tho, but once you get the hang of it, it's really sweet. A whole lot faster too!
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JKB I like this idea but ill tell you you'll hate this after one season.. Any widths over 3' are a pain in the a$$ to work from one side and hard on the back..mine started out as 3' and are now closer to 2' just for this reason you want to be able to step right over them instead of walking around.. My other beds are 4' wide. I know that some people don't like them that wide, but they work fine for me. I don't think I could step over 42" tall pepper plants.
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I have a 50' Python for my Powermig 300. It does a really nice job with aluminum. It takes a bit to get use to tho, but once you get the hang of it, it's really sweet. A whole lot faster too! That alone might make the trip up worthwile to see how it works in pulse on pulse mode. I'd like to see how it works on 16 ga. That's the most common thickness that we'd TIG, although we did do some stuff with thinner material, made some small radiator overflow tanks (think of race cars) out of .032" 5052 H32.
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I have a 50' Python for my Powermig 300. It does a really nice job with aluminum. It takes a bit to get use to tho, but once you get the hang of it, it's really sweet. A whole lot faster too! That alone might make the trip up worthwile to see how it works in pulse on pulse mode. I'd like to see how it works on 16 ga. That's the most common thickness that we'd TIG, although we did do some stuff with thinner material, made some small radiator overflow tanks (think of race cars) out of .032" 5052 H32. Pulse on pulse works pretty sweet, but never tried it on anything thinner than 3/16" aluminum. My wire (3/64) may be too big for 16 ga. Definitely would want to test it out first. Just as easy to Tig the end caps. All you have to do is fuse them, so that goes pretty quick. I have new firmware that upgrades the power mig 300 to a power mig 350 MP. They are both the same animal, just different firmware.
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We never had good luck fusing tanks. Had issues splitting at weld without adding filler rod. Problem went away with filler rod.
Can also adjust heat by concentrating tip more on filler rod than on material if needed. Quicker than modulating pedal.
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JKB I like this idea but ill tell you you'll hate this after one season.. Any widths over 3' are a pain in the a$$ to work from one side and hard on the back..mine started out as 3' and are now closer to 2' just for this reason you want to be able to step right over them instead of walking around.. My other beds are 4' wide. I know that some people don't like them that wide, but they work fine for me. I don't think I could step over 42" tall pepper plants. Some do have to be wide like corn for better pollination and some are impossible to step over. I'm just lazy and don't like the extra strain.. Keep us posted I'd love to see some pics my neighbor does about 7 acres of raised beds all irrigated.. Not boxed in but raised deep beds..
I believe in catch and release. I catch then release to the grease.. BG. CSBG. LMB. HSB. RES.
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We never had good luck fusing tanks. Had issues splitting at weld without adding filler rod. Problem went away with filler rod.
Can also adjust heat by concentrating tip more on filler rod than on material if needed. Quicker than modulating pedal. I never had splitting problems, but should have some filler for 5052. End caps are 0.090. Either,or, tight joints weld fast with a Tig. I have a Syncrowave 250 for this task. Mig welding aluminum is a fast paced operation. Pretty easy to blow a hole in 1/4". I don't think I want to try it on real thin stuff. Maybe with a spool gun and some 0.030. Mine is primarily set up for structural stuff.
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JKB I like this idea but ill tell you you'll hate this after one season.. Any widths over 3' are a pain in the a$$ to work from one side and hard on the back..mine started out as 3' and are now closer to 2' just for this reason you want to be able to step right over them instead of walking around.. My other beds are 4' wide. I know that some people don't like them that wide, but they work fine for me. I don't think I could step over 42" tall pepper plants. Some do have to be wide like corn for better pollination and some are impossible to step over. I'm just lazy and don't like the extra strain.. Keep us posted I'd love to see some pics my neighbor does about 7 acres of raised beds all irrigated.. Not boxed in but raised deep beds.. My sister builds the raised row beds. She builds them pretty high too. She'll never go back to conventional methods.
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I do the same usually about 15-18" tall ill also never go back to regular gardening its great weeds seem to be easier to handle and the plants love it.. I turn all 20 of my beds completely over with a shovel at the end of every year hard work but seems to help with the amending..
I believe in catch and release. I catch then release to the grease.. BG. CSBG. LMB. HSB. RES.
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I did kick some tires, and the Cub with Honda looks pretty decent.
I want to go check out a Husqvarna with a B&S engine that is on sale this week.
Still have snow on the ground up there, but where the garden is going, pretty much thawed out now.
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Still have snow on the ground up there, but where the garden is going, pretty much thawed out now. When I bought my TroyBilt Horse about 35 years ago, I got it with the bar-tread tires, tire chains, and snowplow accessories. 
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Still have snow on the ground up there, but where the garden is going, pretty much thawed out now. When I bought my TroyBilt Horse about 35 years ago, I got it with the bar-tread tires, tire chains, and snowplow accessories. Plowing snow up here, especially how my drive curves, would be quite a futile effort with something you walk behind. It is a PITA with my Kubota! New driveway is going straight back from the road. Extra wide too!
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http://www.thegoodgears.com/Tiller/This site provide top 10 tillers that may help you choose one. But they still updating for new 2015 models.
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It might all depend on the size of your garden. My parents have a very small garden in raised beds and they have one of those small Mantis tillers. When I have a garden it is larger, and I have a tiller that attaches to my garden tractor, both my tractor and tiller are made by John Deere.
I've used other tillers, both front tine and rear tine, and the rear tine tillers don't beat up the operator as much as the front tine tillers do.
What brands are available in the Phillipines? I'm assuming that you're near Manila?
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Scott, do you have a disc also with your tractor? Does the tiller go as deep as the disc or vice-versa? Also, I assume the tiller breaks up the ground better than the disc and also "assume" you wouldn't use your tiller to break new ground??? Is this true?
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